mike pence is not worng in a social world we should be very careful about how we conduct our selves

Some of these allegations are kind of ridiculous anyways. Even if he did them, it's like so what? But a lot of them are actually serious

@Jarlkage Productions my question for you is this: if we believe women when they say something happened, shouldn't we also believe men when they say it didn't?

It's not much about believing every or any accusation. It's more about what best explains this amount of independent allegations spanning from like 2006

But some of these accusations are basically tales of hypersensitive bitches who can't take jokes

Right.

It's like who cares if Lawrence Krauss cracked a joke to some woman about guys asking her on a date

I agree

@m.miller very right

We also need to believe in men when the say it didn't !

I said that before. If you were in the public spotlight for 30 years and met 10,000 people, maybe 10 of them heard you make an inappropriate joke once

that doesn't prove a life of debauchery

but then at the culmination of 30 years you have 10 allegations and it looks like a lot

Disregarding the nature of the conversation, I think we'll have been successful in alienating Krauss the next time he checks the server lol

I'm really bothered that he defended Epstein :/

I know, I'm not very happy about it.

Feels M.

He's in this server, he can see all of this.

It was inevitable, though. This is something that follows anyone accused of certain acts, even if that particular person had been cleared of any wrongdoing

One thing I'll say: there isn't a shortage of women in the atheist movement who have anti-male intentions. I've personally encountered some

I mean there's gonna be people like that everywhere. It's dumb.

"Terrible things are done, by a person or a people, but over time memory fades. People gradually forget the exact details or nature of a scandal. A cloud surrounds a person or an action and then that too dissipates among a mass of new discoveries and experiences. But as the insult and grievance fade from generation to generation, those who hold on to this grievance are often regarded as displaying not sensitivity or honor but belligerence."- Douglas Murray

But being a part of an atheist community in person is basically dealing with pop-SJWs and whatnot

Oh, for sure

Ran into a fair share just since I've gotten back into discussions

Has anyone in this chat met someone who they think would lie about an accusation like that? I certainly have

Um fuck yes. My mom has lied about my dad before.

That kind of person is more common that they appear

I'd be surprised if the majority hasn't encountered such a person

It's tricky. Women shouldn't have to put up with actual harrassment and men shouldn't have to deal with that either

Although men probably do it more tbh

Man lie to some one who trust u or love u is very bad and how small the lie is !!

And it is traumatic !

Hmm not sure Pax, as JP says sabotage is more in the woman's arsenal x)

it just takes a different form

Like sexual harassment

Yes women tend to lie more!!

how do you know that?

Experience or may be bad luck

so the women you know tend to lie more

not all women