but then at the culmination of 30 years you have 10 allegations and it looks like a lot

Disregarding the nature of the conversation, I think we'll have been successful in alienating Krauss the next time he checks the server lol

I'm really bothered that he defended Epstein :/

I know, I'm not very happy about it.

Feels M.

He's in this server, he can see all of this.

It was inevitable, though. This is something that follows anyone accused of certain acts, even if that particular person had been cleared of any wrongdoing

One thing I'll say: there isn't a shortage of women in the atheist movement who have anti-male intentions. I've personally encountered some

I mean there's gonna be people like that everywhere. It's dumb.

"Terrible things are done, by a person or a people, but over time memory fades. People gradually forget the exact details or nature of a scandal. A cloud surrounds a person or an action and then that too dissipates among a mass of new discoveries and experiences. But as the insult and grievance fade from generation to generation, those who hold on to this grievance are often regarded as displaying not sensitivity or honor but belligerence."- Douglas Murray

But being a part of an atheist community in person is basically dealing with pop-SJWs and whatnot

Oh, for sure

Ran into a fair share just since I've gotten back into discussions

Has anyone in this chat met someone who they think would lie about an accusation like that? I certainly have

Um fuck yes. My mom has lied about my dad before.

That kind of person is more common that they appear

I'd be surprised if the majority hasn't encountered such a person

It's tricky. Women shouldn't have to put up with actual harrassment and men shouldn't have to deal with that either

Although men probably do it more tbh

Man lie to some one who trust u or love u is very bad and how small the lie is !!

And it is traumatic !

Hmm not sure Pax, as JP says sabotage is more in the woman's arsenal x)

it just takes a different form

Like sexual harassment

Yes women tend to lie more!!

how do you know that?

Experience or may be bad luck

so the women you know tend to lie more

not all women

But in extreme conditions they lie more

id make the personal claim that men are better liars then women

Hmm not sure about that one

close to 50/50 for me

if not exactly but Idk

Maybe men are better liars, but women lie more often?

Yes women lie more often

i mean i dont really see that i see men and women lie the same amount

guys this is all basless claims can some substatiate them. Wemon lie more often is a specific claim

i wonder if women get put in more situations to lie then men do

i said personal claim

sources all day but we're just spitballing