Lol

@m.miller so are we supposed to read the first chapter tonight?

Hahahahahaha!@@kcon415 @kcon415

If you think of Truth as that which we *act* as though is true, and then it doesn’t contradict its premise, then free will is as true as we act as though it is true. And we all act as if it’s true; even Sam Harris prescribes this.

“What is Truth” is a crucial question and I do not think Harris answers it properly.

You meet because you act as though free will is true.
And, as far as you can tell it is, it IS true because acting as though it’s true doesn’t make it appear any less so.

The only thing that makes you think free will isn’t true is your thoughts, not your actions.

End ramble.

Noooo it's an introductory meeting

@kaizen

Also what book? 🙂 I’m new.

@JPMcGlone We're going to be reading The Moral Landscape but this week wer are just having introductory meetings.

bruh

> bruh
@πto what?

I was an atheist when I first read the Moral Landscape. I’d love to read it now as a Christian.

Ooooooo interesting!!!

nothing I thought that was funny

I went the other way. I recently deconverted from Christianity

We’d make for a very interesting dialogue. I was raised Catholic, was an “anti-theist” for all of my 20s. Became Christian half way through age 31.

Could be fun to dig and ask questions of each other

That would be a fun conversation to listen to

Talking about the characteristics of worldview collapse would be a good place to start

Do you guys wanna hop into voice chat?

For me I realized Christ long before I was willing to call it Christ. That’s very vague I know 😛 but at its core, I think it’s crucial that people know there is one objective truth, and the way to that truth is outside of our own logos. We’re limited; blind, relatively speaking.

Believing that the way to the truth is out there and it’s not ourselves is as important for us as it is a literally blind man being guided by his helper. That man exercises a ton of faith when listening to you (if you were his shepherd)

I usually wait til it picks up to hop in, even though that's kinda silly cause if everyone did that there'd never be a conversation lol

I mean a seperate one

I’m too busy. Gotta bounce. I’d love to do this book club and jump on for chats later

@Smoke did you ever read the Graham Hancock books you downloaded?

I haven't read any of those books :/

Always downloaded em with intent

But never followed through

That's enough sometimes. Look at the good it's doing us all now.

:D

Guys hop into center for ideological disease conteol voice

If you guys ever have any requests, related or unrelated to book club, DM me and I can likely get it.

I just wondered re Hancock if they were any good, I dont think i would read them either but I loved him on Joe rogan

Didn't expect the first request to be an Arabic version of 12 Rules For Life lol

Lol

Voice chattt

I enjoy listening to those just in the back ground

I'm gonna pass on voice chat myself

I canyon voice chat for about another hour or so.

I'm in a different one than the open mic

Can't

Oh sad okay

I am usually not free to mess around on internet til after 9pm UK time