Message from @JCEN

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2020-08-22 04:35:31 UTC  

But would species continue to evolve even today?

2020-08-22 04:35:42 UTC  

It goes along the argument of, well there is a CLOCK so there must be ClockMAKER? Would you agree?

2020-08-22 04:35:56 UTC  

Yes, we are still evolving and I will get to that shortly.

2020-08-22 04:36:46 UTC  

Yes i agree

2020-08-22 04:37:05 UTC  

@Deleted User go to the religion chat i explained speciation to you

2020-08-22 04:37:29 UTC  

Ok, very well. Here I have a clock. A human has made this clock. I can go to the clockmaker and ASK him, "Did you make this clock?" He will say, "Why, yes, of course!".

2020-08-22 04:38:08 UTC  

Now, I have presented you with the fossils, the lineage, of Evolution. And you have demanded that there is a Creator involved, correct?

2020-08-22 04:38:16 UTC  

@T2the2ndpowr I will but @JCEN wants to have a theological discussion with me. These are fun

2020-08-22 04:38:39 UTC  

Please, go to your Creator, and ask him, "Did you create these things?" And relay that message to me, tonight.

2020-08-22 04:39:20 UTC  

@everyone jumping on voice

2020-08-22 04:39:30 UTC  

@JCEN No I stated that adaptative genes would make sense EVEN IF a creator was involved

2020-08-22 04:40:09 UTC  

Ok, "EVEN IF", is a Hypothetical. I don't care about "EVEN IF". I want PROOF . And as far as I can tell, you are unable to provide that to me.

2020-08-22 04:40:41 UTC  

@JCEN Proof of what? I never made any claims to you

2020-08-22 04:41:03 UTC  

You are Straw_Manning at this point. You have no evidence for your claim that a Creator has any say-so within Evolution.

2020-08-22 04:41:22 UTC  

I never made the claim...Go back and read

2020-08-22 04:41:46 UTC  

I gave you the evidence. You reject it without a counter-claim.

2020-08-22 04:41:54 UTC  

If is a little word but it can mean a lot

2020-08-22 04:42:14 UTC  

You are not convinced Evolution has anything to do with a Creator, is that correct?

2020-08-22 04:43:28 UTC  

Or do you believe, a Creator has put it's hand in all of this?

2020-08-22 04:43:28 UTC  

I'm not sure about an actual creator to be honest so why would I make the claim there had to be a creator

2020-08-22 04:43:45 UTC  

That is what you are claiming, you do not even realize it.

2020-08-22 04:44:01 UTC  

Which is, honestly, quite immoral.

2020-08-22 04:44:17 UTC  

haha what

2020-08-22 04:44:29 UTC  

I hold an uncertain belief that the forming of the universe and everything in it was guided

2020-08-22 04:44:39 UTC  

@JCEN No I stated that adaptative genes would make sense EVEN IF a creator was involved

2020-08-22 04:44:48 UTC  

why dont we go into voice chat

2020-08-22 04:45:23 UTC  

Im good here. it;s too noisy

2020-08-22 04:45:29 UTC  

in my home

2020-08-22 04:45:37 UTC  

@JCEN how is it immoral to think what passerby just said lol

2020-08-22 04:45:49 UTC  

I can tell, and I agree, Passerby. They voicers' just want to yell.

2020-08-22 04:46:31 UTC  

Not true :(

2020-08-22 04:46:35 UTC  

T2 you are welcome to stay here. Otherwise, if all you have to do is disregard anything that is said. Please, see your way out.

2020-08-22 04:47:24 UTC  

can you tell me what you think is immoral about what passerby said

2020-08-22 04:47:30 UTC  

Sure.

2020-08-22 04:47:30 UTC  

But honestly how is it immoral to hold a different world view than other people?

2020-08-22 04:47:36 UTC  

yeah

2020-08-22 04:47:42 UTC  

well

2020-08-22 04:47:50 UTC  

i think other world views can be immoral

2020-08-22 04:47:58 UTC  

You have said that adaptive genes would make sense EVEN IF a creator was involved, correct?

2020-08-22 04:47:58 UTC  

but not what you said

2020-08-22 04:48:16 UTC  

But not what I said? Excuse me?