Message from @ThePangburn
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Looking at the video from logical analysis I would say that there are several fallacies here:
Formal: Failure to give an argument. You simply state what you think is true without anything to back up this idea.
Informal: Shifting burden of proof. (Inferred) people might see you saying to prove you wrong / give you evidence you are wrong is a shift of burden of proof. I say inferred because its not outright.
Informal: Mind reading/special knowledge: that people who say "destigmatize" are doing so for (X) reason. No one can know what reason any given person has for doing (X) thing.
--mind reading/special knowledge is a logical fallacy that I've come up with (it might have an actual fallacy that is agreed upon that I am unaware of) the fallacy is when someone says they know why person did/did not do (X) or what a person was thinking or what a person's intent was. To know such a thing would take special knowledge or the ability to mind read, hence the name(s) of the fallacy. --
These are my conclusions for this video and I hope that you find my input and critical feedback to be of use to you, I still would love to talk logic with you at some point. 🙂
kk me off now *poof*
> Looking at the video from logical analysis I would say that there are several fallacies here:
> Formal: Failure to give an argument. You simply state what you think is true without anything to back up this idea.
> Informal: Shifting burden of proof. (Inferred) people might see you saying to prove you wrong / give you evidence you are wrong is a shift of burden of proof. I say inferred because its not outright.
> Informal: Mind reading/special knowledge: that people who say "destigmatize" are doing so for (X) reason. No one can know what reason any given person has for doing (X) thing.
> --mind reading/special knowledge is a logical fallacy that I've come up with (it might have an actual fallacy that is agreed upon that I am unaware of) the fallacy is when someone says they know why person did/did not do (X) or what a person was thinking or what a person's intent was. To know such a thing would take special knowledge or the ability to mind read, hence the name(s) of the fallacy. --
>
> These are my conclusions for this video and I hope that you find my input and critical feedback to be of use to you, I still would love to talk logic with you at some point. 🙂
@Deconverted Man the video is colloquial. I am not claiming "no one is normalizing pedophilia " to 100% certainty. If I say there is no Santa Clause, I don't follow it up with my logical argument formation. The inference is nonsensical. Your made up logical fallacy is not a logical fallacy for good reason. I didn't make a claim to have special knowledge or am able to read minds. That's all nonsense.
A video being colloquial does not negate it from critical analysis of logic. Your free to discard my fallacy of course - I suppose Bulverism comes close to what I'm thinking about. you wanted skeptical feed back, so I did my best to give you mine.
or maybe Appeal to motive is closer. - eh no matter.
also there is in fact a mind-reading fallacy already, at least so claims this webpage http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm - number 74. Seems very close to what I was trying to say.
> This video comment section needs skeptics... please engage @everyone https://youtu.be/ilOmtQO8Z9Y
@ThePangburn There was a comment by subscriber XYZ that noted some verifiable instances where one could conclude that the sexualization of children is taking place. I am curious of how you would respond to him.
What verifiable instances? Remember what I am claiming here..
Do you have a video talking about a solution for pedophilia
Like a video on how you’d want these people to be helped
We did a town hall discussion on it. YouTube.com/pangburn
It’s such a crazy complex issue
It’s so easy to dismiss
Passerby, apply skepticism before you answer please..
Try to steelman what I would say.
To what you are writing now.
Yeah I do understand the claim. "People are not normalizing pedophilia" was the claim. And I understand that the claims don't provide evidence against your claim either. But I was curious what you thought of the events described and if you thought that the sexualization of children was taking place.
Taking place where
In his video?
No in a comment on youtube by XYZ. a reply to the pinned comment.
No one has provided a shred of evidence.
A child's pageant show is not evidence of that, a ted talks episode is not evidence of that. Apply skepticism.
Would a school system allowing tranny story hour to take place weekly amidst the cry of concerned parents qualify as evidence?
> Would a school system allowing tranny story hour to take place weekly amidst the cry of concerned parents qualify as evidence?
@Deleted User LMAO NOOOO!!
How is that specialization of children
Sexualization
The sexualization of children is the claim I'm making. Never mentioned sex with children
No and I didn’t say that
I said how is that sexualization of children
The example you gave about a transgender story
How is that possibly sexualization of children
They weren't just transgender. They dressed like protitutes would dress.
Give the example of the story. Cause I don’t think anyone knows what story you’re talking about
Keep in mind that this is allowed in the Austin school district
😂
Wow
I mean yeah it’s very inappropriate
I think the beginning of the video is a little absurd with the whole grooming your children