Message from @ThePangburn

Discord ID: 747196048308437094


2020-08-23 07:40:29 UTC  

Looking at the video from logical analysis I would say that there are several fallacies here:
Formal: Failure to give an argument. You simply state what you think is true without anything to back up this idea.
Informal: Shifting burden of proof. (Inferred) people might see you saying to prove you wrong / give you evidence you are wrong is a shift of burden of proof. I say inferred because its not outright.
Informal: Mind reading/special knowledge: that people who say "destigmatize" are doing so for (X) reason. No one can know what reason any given person has for doing (X) thing.
--mind reading/special knowledge is a logical fallacy that I've come up with (it might have an actual fallacy that is agreed upon that I am unaware of) the fallacy is when someone says they know why person did/did not do (X) or what a person was thinking or what a person's intent was. To know such a thing would take special knowledge or the ability to mind read, hence the name(s) of the fallacy. --

These are my conclusions for this video and I hope that you find my input and critical feedback to be of use to you, I still would love to talk logic with you at some point. 🙂

2020-08-23 07:40:42 UTC  

kk me off now *poof*

2020-08-23 07:56:12 UTC  

> Looking at the video from logical analysis I would say that there are several fallacies here:
> Formal: Failure to give an argument. You simply state what you think is true without anything to back up this idea.
> Informal: Shifting burden of proof. (Inferred) people might see you saying to prove you wrong / give you evidence you are wrong is a shift of burden of proof. I say inferred because its not outright.
> Informal: Mind reading/special knowledge: that people who say "destigmatize" are doing so for (X) reason. No one can know what reason any given person has for doing (X) thing.
> --mind reading/special knowledge is a logical fallacy that I've come up with (it might have an actual fallacy that is agreed upon that I am unaware of) the fallacy is when someone says they know why person did/did not do (X) or what a person was thinking or what a person's intent was. To know such a thing would take special knowledge or the ability to mind read, hence the name(s) of the fallacy. --
>
> These are my conclusions for this video and I hope that you find my input and critical feedback to be of use to you, I still would love to talk logic with you at some point. 🙂
@Deconverted Man the video is colloquial. I am not claiming "no one is normalizing pedophilia " to 100% certainty. If I say there is no Santa Clause, I don't follow it up with my logical argument formation. The inference is nonsensical. Your made up logical fallacy is not a logical fallacy for good reason. I didn't make a claim to have special knowledge or am able to read minds. That's all nonsense.

2020-08-23 12:55:40 UTC  

A video being colloquial does not negate it from critical analysis of logic. Your free to discard my fallacy of course - I suppose Bulverism comes close to what I'm thinking about. you wanted skeptical feed back, so I did my best to give you mine.

2020-08-23 12:59:34 UTC  

or maybe Appeal to motive is closer. - eh no matter.

2020-08-23 13:42:10 UTC  

also there is in fact a mind-reading fallacy already, at least so claims this webpage http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm - number 74. Seems very close to what I was trying to say.

2020-08-23 19:24:39 UTC  

> This video comment section needs skeptics... please engage @everyone https://youtu.be/ilOmtQO8Z9Y
@ThePangburn There was a comment by subscriber XYZ that noted some verifiable instances where one could conclude that the sexualization of children is taking place. I am curious of how you would respond to him.

2020-08-23 20:39:48 UTC  

What verifiable instances? Remember what I am claiming here..

2020-08-23 20:43:44 UTC  

Do you have a video talking about a solution for pedophilia

2020-08-23 20:43:56 UTC  

Like a video on how you’d want these people to be helped

2020-08-23 20:45:25 UTC  

We did a town hall discussion on it. YouTube.com/pangburn

2020-08-23 20:45:44 UTC  

It’s such a crazy complex issue

2020-08-23 20:45:50 UTC  

It’s so easy to dismiss

2020-08-23 20:46:01 UTC  

Passerby, apply skepticism before you answer please..

2020-08-23 20:46:16 UTC  

Try to steelman what I would say.

2020-08-23 20:46:32 UTC  

To what you are writing now.

2020-08-23 20:48:19 UTC  

Yeah I do understand the claim. "People are not normalizing pedophilia" was the claim. And I understand that the claims don't provide evidence against your claim either. But I was curious what you thought of the events described and if you thought that the sexualization of children was taking place.

2020-08-23 20:48:54 UTC  

Taking place where

2020-08-23 20:49:18 UTC  

In his video?

2020-08-23 20:49:50 UTC  

No in a comment on youtube by XYZ. a reply to the pinned comment.

2020-08-23 20:50:20 UTC  

Show me the evidence of people normalizing sex with children.

2020-08-23 20:50:33 UTC  

No one has provided a shred of evidence.

2020-08-23 20:51:15 UTC  

A child's pageant show is not evidence of that, a ted talks episode is not evidence of that. Apply skepticism.

2020-08-23 20:52:46 UTC  

Would a school system allowing tranny story hour to take place weekly amidst the cry of concerned parents qualify as evidence?

2020-08-23 20:53:15 UTC  

> Would a school system allowing tranny story hour to take place weekly amidst the cry of concerned parents qualify as evidence?
@Deleted User LMAO NOOOO!!

2020-08-23 20:53:26 UTC  

How is that specialization of children

2020-08-23 20:53:35 UTC  

Sexualization

2020-08-23 20:54:17 UTC  

The sexualization of children is the claim I'm making. Never mentioned sex with children

2020-08-23 20:54:54 UTC  

No and I didn’t say that

2020-08-23 20:55:08 UTC  

I said how is that sexualization of children

2020-08-23 20:55:28 UTC  

The example you gave about a transgender story

2020-08-23 20:55:58 UTC  

How is that possibly sexualization of children

2020-08-23 20:56:28 UTC  

They weren't just transgender. They dressed like protitutes would dress.

2020-08-23 20:57:12 UTC  

Give the example of the story. Cause I don’t think anyone knows what story you’re talking about

2020-08-23 21:01:03 UTC  

Keep in mind that this is allowed in the Austin school district

2020-08-23 21:02:14 UTC  

😂

2020-08-23 21:02:15 UTC  

Wow

2020-08-23 21:02:25 UTC  

I mean yeah it’s very inappropriate

2020-08-23 21:02:43 UTC  

I think the beginning of the video is a little absurd with the whole grooming your children