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2020-08-24 00:20:59 UTC  

yeah

2020-08-24 00:21:15 UTC  

well, there are those who might benifit from help if they seek it

2020-08-24 00:21:17 UTC  

not sure what that means

2020-08-24 00:21:52 UTC  

I don't see why we have to pretend they are completely out of their right minds and they "need" it some sense that they will necessarily be out of control otherwise

2020-08-24 00:21:59 UTC  

They should seek help most definately before they do molest a child

2020-08-24 00:22:13 UTC  

wait what was the response about the kid dancing at the gay bar tho

2020-08-24 00:22:14 UTC  

no, they simply shouldn't harm children

2020-08-24 00:22:22 UTC  

But would encouraging it somewhat normalize it?

2020-08-24 00:22:28 UTC  

and they should seek help if they feel like they need it

2020-08-24 00:22:42 UTC  

Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't, but we should still normalize it anyway

2020-08-24 00:22:49 UTC  

@AirBreather5000 Error of vetting fallacy

2020-08-24 00:22:57 UTC  

yeah what is that exactly?

2020-08-24 00:22:57 UTC  

these people didn't decide to be attracted to kids

2020-08-24 00:23:13 UTC  

NORMALIZE IT

2020-08-24 00:23:17 UTC  

Normalize what

2020-08-24 00:23:17 UTC  

why make them feel like complete freaks for something they didn't choose and which they didn't act on

2020-08-24 00:23:20 UTC  

Pedophilia

2020-08-24 00:23:24 UTC  

normalize pedophiles

2020-08-24 00:23:31 UTC  

don't use the word as as pejoriative

2020-08-24 00:23:32 UTC  

Insane

2020-08-24 00:23:39 UTC  

not really

2020-08-24 00:23:48 UTC  

I think it you who is kind of bigoted

2020-08-24 00:24:12 UTC  

There are like a million different fallacies available to atheists to avoid addressing an argument

2020-08-24 00:24:24 UTC  

First of all pedophilia definitely isn’t some genetic problem. I shouldn’t say that with certainty but I certainly don’t think it’s genetic

2020-08-24 00:24:35 UTC  

did I say it was genetic?

2020-08-24 00:24:35 UTC  

it's fine to claim a logical fallacy when there is one, i'm just not familiar with the error of vetting fallacy

2020-08-24 00:24:41 UTC  

its nature and nurture

2020-08-24 00:24:43 UTC  

It’s an environmental thing and has something to do with there childhood

2020-08-24 00:24:47 UTC  

just not an active choice

2020-08-24 00:25:06 UTC  

just like you don't get to choose if ur straight or gay or like chocolate or vanilla

2020-08-24 00:25:10 UTC  

It’s definitely nurture I’d say and there’s only proof that it is nurture it’s impossible to prove that it’s nature

2020-08-24 00:25:25 UTC  

But being gay is different than being a pedophile

2020-08-24 00:25:29 UTC  

i wouldn't say it's impossible but i would agree that there is evidence that it does occur from nurture

2020-08-24 00:25:29 UTC  

no duh

2020-08-24 00:25:34 UTC  

These are abused people

2020-08-24 00:25:41 UTC  

who's abused people?

2020-08-24 00:25:45 UTC  

Pedophiles

2020-08-24 00:25:49 UTC  

wdym?

2020-08-24 00:25:55 UTC  

they are abused? by who?

2020-08-24 00:26:18 UTC  

A lot of pedophiles have admitted that they were sexually abused at a young age

2020-08-24 00:26:34 UTC  

ok I mean I don't doubt that