I have to take more of a look. But they had some kind of drama

But two sides of a story

I used to like Sam, until i came across some unfortunate clips... Ugh

What clips)

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These semi-applogetic, Gynocentric drivel related to circumcision

That’s an interesting point about FGM vs MGM. We do all agree that FGM is worse right? I think as long as we agree on that we can have a circumcision discussion without minimum the other.

Like I can respect Travis despite our disagreements, cause he's not defending barbarism and whatnot. I can't forgive Sam though

*minimizing

Eh I still like Sam

I'll ask this: what do you even mean that one is worse? And why do you think so?

Disagree with him on circumcision

He called out the libs on Islam apologetics, cause Muslims are another horde of savages that must be criticized

Fair enough

Fuck yes

I’m an ex muslim and seriously

I mean. In the game of “would you rather”. I’d rather have my foreskin removed than my clit removed.

No one has a bigger hate boner than me for muslim apologists

Do you even know what the foreskin is? A lot of people don't, so don't take it the wrong way if you don't. Like if you're from a circ culture, I don't expect you to

These left wing virtue signaling assholes don’t really know what it’s like leaving Islam and having your whole life ripped apart because some child molester 1400 years ago said that if you were born into it and leaves you will be forsaken

@Jarlkage Productions I got circumcised as a baby so I haven’t really done much research into it

But what I would rather? Lose a genital pleasure center vs lose a genital pleasure center?

Haha I’m not offended. I’m pretty confident I know what it is. Mine is intact. I’m also aware that there are different levels of removal.

That's another aspect that complicates the issue.

But we can with the most common forms of FGM and MGM

But you should be thankful if you still have yours. I mean, it has the frenulum, for starters...

But if you have a forseskin, presumably you're aware how it compares to a (glans) clitoris size-wise

I mean my dad has his and he doesn't know about how significant it is. He's like 52.

It seems that robbing a woman of the ability of a clitoral orgasm is more detrimental than robbing a man of his foreskin sensations. I can’t know this for sure. But that’s my impression.

They can still have orgasms. A lot do, like Malaysian women

But taking away the g-spot, the frenulum absolutely decreases sexual pleasure for men too. Ignoring what happens to a dick once you cut off the mucosal tissue that keeps the tip lubricated

How do you orgasm without a clitoris??

Or the ridged band

Most women can't orgasm without it.

Good for them. Women can achieve orgasm from vaginal stimulation, but it’s rare.

There are still nerves that remain after the cut where the clit used to be

But they're both pretty bad

So this, I was trying to look up. What’s the percentage of woman that can achieve clitoral orgasm after FGM? And does it make it harder? Like we talking a few AA batteries, or do we need 240 volts? Or like a Tesla?

Here’s a snippet from an article. I’ll post the link.

Not everyone reacts the same way to FGM/C either. Numerous studies show that women who have undergone FGM/C often experience reduced sexual sensation or desire, pain during sex, an inability to self-lubricate or orgasm, and anxiety or other mental symptoms of trauma, among other issues. But some women say they can still have pleasurable sex with few or no difficulties, even after undergoing the most extreme forms of FGM/C.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/43k93m/a-couple-talks-about-sex-after-fgm-female-genital-mutilation