@ThePangburn

Not a fan of debate format. I prefer the style like you see in my live events.

@everyone Lawrence Krauss shows up on Discord! Welcome new member <@!601541939614973953> https://youtu.be/JO5f5UcjQF4

Is that actually Lawrence

Yep

Really good chat today, you guys. I love this community so much.

Was my first day. Thanks for the warm welcome Travis and Bobby and Miller and everyone there

Will definitely join again

Yep the community here is very nice and welcoming

I want to know the difference between archetype and mems
Thank u

Yoooo @everyone !! If you want to join our book club, head over to <#754149871455567892> and drop a message!! I want to get started soon! If you guys want to read The Moral Landscape together for the month of October, let me know and we will work it out!

Lawrence Krauss is probably my favorite physicist, science communicator and sexual predator alive today.

Hard stop. We have no evidence that he is a sexual predator.

That's not cool dude.

What's not cool is handwaving away the testimony of women because it put one of your science-bro idols in a bad light.

He was only accused of it

I could accuse you of the same thing

I could accuse you of anything

Doesn’t mean you did it

Innocent until proven guilty. Due process is real.

Several women did accuse him, and all he and his adoring fans have done is handwave away their testimony. It shows how much respect Krauss and you folks have for women in the freethinker community.

@Shem the Penman until evidence is presented, we must assume innocence.

in all honesty the standards of the judicial system are there for the sate not the individual

they are the stadnards for prosecution

And they are the standards which we should look at when prosecuting someone

Even as an individual if we’re just morally prosecuting them

@ThePangburn

I just want to make sure I get what you're saying: the fact that several women in the freethought community have accused Krauss of sexual impropriety means absolutely nothing to you.

It doesn’t mean that much to me

It means something to me

It doesn't mean nothing. It also doesn't mean we jump to conclusions.

But I could accuse anyone of anything

Accusing people of something is the easy part that anyone can do

Showing evidence or some sort of proof is the part that matters

The most

That's pretty cynical, that you're waiting for some sort of forensic evidence of Krauss's groping women. I guess it's true that "evidence" means whatever you want it to mean.

No

I didn’t say that

We need evidence or we have the Salem witch trials

You said that

we need evidence to prosecute them