Innocent until proven guilty. Due process is real.

Several women did accuse him, and all he and his adoring fans have done is handwave away their testimony. It shows how much respect Krauss and you folks have for women in the freethinker community.

@Shem the Penman until evidence is presented, we must assume innocence.

in all honesty the standards of the judicial system are there for the sate not the individual

they are the stadnards for prosecution

And they are the standards which we should look at when prosecuting someone

Even as an individual if we’re just morally prosecuting them

@ThePangburn

I just want to make sure I get what you're saying: the fact that several women in the freethought community have accused Krauss of sexual impropriety means absolutely nothing to you.

It doesn’t mean that much to me

It means something to me

It doesn't mean nothing. It also doesn't mean we jump to conclusions.

But I could accuse anyone of anything

Accusing people of something is the easy part that anyone can do

Showing evidence or some sort of proof is the part that matters

The most

That's pretty cynical, that you're waiting for some sort of forensic evidence of Krauss's groping women. I guess it's true that "evidence" means whatever you want it to mean.

No

I didn’t say that

We need evidence or we have the Salem witch trials

You said that

we need evidence to prosecute them

or treat them in a negative way

Obviously it can’t be forensic

as a collective

Sexual predator😂😂😂

for example in white collar cases the standard of eveidence shifts from without resonable doubt to proponderence of the evidence

we need to understad that even if there is eveidence that he might be a sexual predetor its not enough to convict him, but it does not mean I shouldnt be more suspicous of him. When accusations are made they should be taken seriously and when there is more than one testamony it raises our level of suspicion, and should raise our lever of suspicion.

Yet its not enough to convict. This is more due to the was we structure of legal axioms not our indevidual ones i def am suspicious of Krauss

Hey guys. Unfortunately I wasn't able to thank you all for a warm welcome until now. So, thank you.
Staying up until 1:30 am to hear your ideas was worth it 😁

@Plumabear great to hear!! We will be having an open mic again today! :)

What did they accuse Lawerence Krauss of doing specifically?

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@therealdandan By ‘white collar’ do you mean civil? If it’s a ‘white collar’ criminal case, the burden of proof is still going to be beyond reasonable doubt.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/lawrence-krauss-sexual-harassment-allegations#.txmVvGYJP

> @therealdandan By ‘white collar’ do you mean civil? If it’s a ‘white collar’ criminal case, the burden of proof is still going to be beyond reasonable doubt.
@davesp1903 yea you are right my bad used wrong word

This article outlines a lot of the accusations that have been made against him. Virtually all of the accusations are him talking out of turn and/or making inappropriate jokes

Then, Hensley said, Krauss made a comment about her eye makeup, and got very close to her face. Suddenly, he lifted her by the arms and pushed her onto the bed beneath him, forcibly kissing her and trying to pull down the crotch of her tights. Hensley said she struggled to push him off. When he pulled out a condom, Hensley said, she got out from under him, said “I have to go,” and rushed out of the room.

Right. To me, this is the only accusation that really deserves any notoriety

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