I’m about to run too

I’ll hop on vc in a little bit

> I don’t think that responsibility applies when he didn’t consent to conceiving the child
@kaizen I would disagree there. You have a responsibility for the child you bear regardless of circumstance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer for reference

How do you justify that?

@Zurich04

@Zurich04 what time is on your clock?

In my part of the world it's half past 9 pm

Oof

I think it’s a necessity for a society to hold that position in order to function kaizen

It’s 3:30 pm here

12:30

West coast US

Damn lucky you guys

I’d disagree slightly

https://youtu.be/WrK7h2b4Uhs

It’s necessary to uphold that principle when the child is a product of consensual sex

Not in instances where one party doesn’t consent

What if the consenting party is unable to raise the child? (idk if that was the case in this case but that’s just a question)

It would also be a deterrent against female predators

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@Zurich04 then it would depend on circumstances. For example, was protection used and the child still conceived?

That’s probably a big one

Since the sex was performed with the intent of not having a kid

Well not intent

But they went further to make sure they didn’t have a kid and it wasn’t their fault

I’d agree there. If you’re rapping a child with the malicious intent of getting support than it is a different circumstance. I think I’ve come to an impasse in my thoughts and have to think about it more

Thanks for the discussion

@emile

I’ll hop in the vc and just listen if that’s alright

my mic not connected

@emile

are u brother with Chérif Kouachi

you kinda look alike

that Charlie Hebdo shooter

@Zurich04 gg mate

Fun discussion

Jordan’s sick rn. His status is kinda too high to talk with us too

i bet u had a lot of friends

@everyone be sure to have the YouTube stream up and muted, it really helps the channel!

@m.miller https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/maine-democrat-sara-gideon-killed-bills-outlawing-female-genital-mutilation/