Yes, that is that worldview christians have. We can know things because we know him who know everything. He did promise to tell us things if we would ask. We dont have the I know because of my feelings and because of my feelings I know. (circle logic). We have him who we can ask.

We break the circle

Ours is more of a spiral, always leading to the center and emanating out from there

That and God created logic too. Logic will remain whether we are here or not to use it. Its out there to be discovered.

Man is much better at defeating logic than using it

Try this one on for size. We are spiritual beings currently having a human experience. This is a temporary condition.

Absolutely

So the biggest thing I see is the problem of Evil. First Evil does exists and the complaint is why doesnt God do something about it. There is horrible tragic things happening and seems no God intervention. Bad things to Good people and Good things to bad people.

The conclusion becomes there must be no God.

The war in heaven is settled but the battle still rages until God puts the enemy under Jesus footstool. Aside from that His children are still being molded into kings and priests. Much dross to be removed from the gold.

There is some comfort in knowing that God has promised it will be eliminated. Parable about the weeds being allowed to grow with the wheat. Not being removed immediately because it would take the young wheat with it at this point. The wheat has to mature and harvested and then the weeds will be gathered and burned. Speculation on my part is that we have to be changed to be like Jesus to truly be free of Evil. The harvest is the change, the ready to go home. Till then the Evil will be with us and plague us.

It doesn't just plague us. God uses it to help mold us.

I would not have known the good without the presence of the evil.

Paul complained that he had troubles and so wished to be with the Lord, but he had things to do here first. I think God has things to do here first too, like get his lost sheep back to the fold. Truly its about no being afraid of death anymore because it isn't the end of us like Evil would have it.

Amen

My old eyes are hurting.I must retire.

You can really take a deep dive into the motivations of Evil's goal to wipeout mankind, to kill, steal and destroy. It goes back to before the Eden's Garden.

Rest well, and blessings to you and yours

No one here should expect to be listening to the truth, just because someone else said so... Trust God and use the gift of discernment. Then shut up and enjoy the many varieties in life.

Get yer popcorn.

Good morning everyone....

I'm throwing this out there today. Several topics, people and opinions are tossed in here daily. Do prohets sell their prophecies for monetary gain? Is that proper? Should you pay for God's message? Do we follow man/ woman or the words of God? I see often about donations first then prayers, it all seems for financial gain. Every bit of info is costs money. Can you purchase your way into heaven? Do you pay for faith? Love? Jesus Christ is our Savior, He is the truth, way and life. Blessed be His name.

I agree that 'prophets' (and the rest, teachers, pastors, evangelists etc) should not use the act of serving Gods people as a means of monetary gain. There are, a couple of scriptures pertaining to that. The first that comes to mind is, "Don't muzzle the ox that treads out the corn". The best way to accomplish this is through 'freewill' offerings, not money begged for or demanded.

Another thing I have a problem with is the Idea of bringing tithes up from the Old Testament to the new. I don't think it can be supported in the scriptures. If someone can discuss this issue I'd like to talk about it.

Leviticus 27:30

**Leviticus 27:30 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<30> All tithes from the land, whether the seed from the ground or the fruit from the tree, are the Lord's; they are holy to the Lord. ```

Leviticus 27:30-34

**Leviticus 27:30-34 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<30> All tithes from the land, whether the seed from the ground or the fruit from the tree, are the Lord's; they are holy to the Lord. <31> If persons wish to redeem any of their tithes, they must add one-fifth to them. <32> All tithes of herd and flock, every tenth one that passes under the shepherd's staff, shall be holy to the Lord. <33> Let no one inquire whether it is good or bad, or make substitution for it; if one makes substitution for it, then both it and the substitute shall be holy and cannot be redeemed. <34> These are the commandments that the Lord gave to Moses for the people of Israel on Mount Sinai. ```

All right, that last verse says the commandment was to the children of Israel on Mt. Sinai. Do you believe that transfers to the Christians of the new covenant?

The laws we're for the Israelites, so if other people lived or worked wthin there country they had to abide the laws too.

There were many laws then there were Jubilee laws too.

I will look further into the laws of the Israelites.

I would like clarification on prayer with or without head covering covered in 1Corinthians 11:1-16

1 Corinthians 10: 1-16

1 Corinthians 11:1-16

**1 Corinthians 11:1-16 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust
Head Coverings

<1> <1> Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. <2> I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions just as I handed them on to you. <3> But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ. <4> Any man who prays or prophesies with something on his head disgraces his head, <5> but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled disgraces her head—it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved. <6> For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should wear a veil. <7> For a man ought not to have his head veiled, since he is the image and reflection of God; but woman is the reflection of man. <8> Indeed, man was not made from woman, but woman from man. <9> Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man. <10> For this reason a woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. <11> Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man or man independent of woman. <12> For just as woman came from man, so man comes through woman; but all things come from God. <13> Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled? <14> Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him, <15> but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. <16> But if anyone is disposed to be contentious—we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. ```

It is stated clearly enough that the head covering is hair, The woman should let hers grow and not cut it. the man should cut his to be acceptable before God in prayer. The KJV is a little clearer on the issue, I think, but I prefer the King James.

That's a truth that isn't taught anymore in modern day 'churches'. I think it's because of the women's lib movement where they think they should be equal or even superior to men because they don't understand that they are two parts of a whole. that is the result of what happened in the garden. Eve was the first to be deceived and so was caused to be subservient to Adam who was made to be subservient to the earth, having to work by the sweat of his brow for his living. The serpent, not a snake, was turned into a snake to eat the dust of the ground. The dust of the ground that God formed Adam from.

I may be evil spoken of for that last bit but the meaning is clear. Try as you might you can't make the scriptures say what you want.

Good night