Message from @Shadetree49
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@Shadetree49 like to explain this to you sometime soon
There is God the Father, Son is Jesus Christ. Done deal
@QuikWit @imig Consider this alternate point of view. There is a Godhead. It is comprised of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is also only one God. Now reconcile the two seemingly contradictory positions. Look at the timeline. In the Old Testament God was represented as the Father, presiding OVER the people. At the advent of Jesus, God came down into a mortal body and dwelt WITH the people, yet still remained over the people. John called Him the Logos, or the very essence of God. When Jesus ascended back to heaven in bodily form He sent back the Holy Spirit to live IN the people. Same God in all three forms. Just getting closer to His children through time.
Look at Mathew 28:19 Jesus, before He ascended, commanded that new believers were to be baptized in the NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Now notice that 'name' is singular. What is the name. It is the Lord Jesus Christ. Break that down and realize we have one Lord and Father of us all. Jesus was/is the earthly name of the Son. It literally means Jehovah s Savior. The Holy Ghost/Spirit is the 'breath' of God, the life giving force.
**Matthew 28:19 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<19> Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ```
By the way, the term baptism infers a total immersion.
@Shadetree49 thats exactly what the trinity is supposed to mean, god in 3 forms. 👏
The problem with those diagrams is the same as the problem with the word Trinity. It is finite man trying to describe the infinite God. Any definition you attribute to Him has the effect of limiting Him. You're encapsulating Him in a nice neat package you can get your mind around. Think outside the box. There are no boundaries on God. Perhaps the apostle John said it best when he said that God is light and God is love.
That too sets limits. Before there was light God was there. He spoke and light came to be.
That was before He was The Father and then The Son and Then the Holy Ghost. That assumes a timeline but He created time.
Does He not have those attributes within Himself and yet He is so much more.
I must stop here. I have already, because I am finite like you, been trying to describe The Infinite God.
He gave us his Word, set down in a love letter called the Bible, written by prophets and sages moved by the Holy Spirit over thousands of years. It's all verifiable by putting it to the test. All His promises can be attained by His children through faith. The faith He places in our hearts.
As He warns us in the book of Revelation, don't add to or take away from His Word. It's all we need.
@Shadetree49 amen
@clarion1 Thank you. Trying to think at this level can (if I'm not there already) drive one crazy.
@Deb65 I'm getting used to that translation. I've been KJV for the last 50 years. KJV says comprehended rather than overcome it. It's OK since the darkness can't possibly overcome if they can't even comprehend the light.
So, another question now arises. Is it a false teaching to say that unless God reveals to you your need for Him, you will never seek Him? What about predestination? What about "Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated, before they were in their mothers womb"? Predestination is a solid scriptural doctrine, as far as I can see. Do we have a duty to present the gospel to all who will listen? Absolutely. We are to sow the seed but it is God who gives the increase.
Pray for Julian Assange and for several of the mods on this Soapbox. Satan is definitely going about like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour.
Please pray for my daughter Jessica. They are running test on her . She had a biopsy done today. Pray test results comes back normal.
Praying
X22 says Julian story may be bogus about torture. I'm sure he needs your prayers anyway.
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https://vimeo.com/368178938 scroll past bad audio to about 7 mins - The Generals are speaking for those who have ears to hear;) Dutch Sheets along with many others such Cindy Jacobs, Chuck Pierce and worship leader fave Rick Pino has spent years traveling the nation - they have no "church" Several years ago, Dutch turned his church over to an associate....to PRAY
@tjams That was interesting. I follow the Word of God, however, and I only see one NATION that He will save as a NATION. That is Israel. Among the Gentiles it is an individual affair between God and man.
Ask of Me, and I will give the nations as an inheritance to you- ASK Of Me
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
Galatians 3:8
The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you
**Galatians 3:8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<8> And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, declared the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "All the Gentiles shall be blessed in you." ```
Revelation 2:26
He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations
**Revelation 2:26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<26> To everyone who conquers and continues to do my works to the end, I will give authority over the nations; ```
https://www1.cbn.com/cape-henry-spiritual-roots-of-a-nation
WoW - didnt realize my good friend wrote this extremely important article about the First Decree made in our country
I just got an 800 number call saying my I-Cloud account was breached. New scam - I don't have an I-Cloud account. Beware.
@tjams The only Nation, called by name as a nation, to be saved as a nation, is Israel. The other references you mention are either calling individuals out of nations or refer to millennium events. Look again at Rev 2:26. Iy talks about the end and things thereafter.
AFK for awhile
God is into Nations - He brings nations out of individuals... the millennium works for me😉 God Always Brings Beauty Out Of Ashes... of course my husband and I are Christian International Ministers so this is more our focus than perhaps other streams
https://www.khouse.tv/on-demand/archive/19 also found here--> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRj8AJuzeJRwHdeFua3pzmwPB_JCS0mIq
May be the best 24 hours you'll ever invest in anything...
Love Chuck Missler - he became very good friends with Prophet Kim Clement before he went to Glory