Message from @Reb Trump

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2018-12-27 00:10:04 UTC  

torah talks about "eye for an eye", talmud teaches "if your enemy comes to kill you, get up early and kill him first"

2018-12-27 00:10:21 UTC  

I know about the eye for an eye Exodus 21:24

2018-12-27 00:10:47 UTC  

Where in the Talmud does it say "the get up early" thing?

2018-12-27 00:11:01 UTC  

I don't know the exact coordinates

2018-12-27 00:11:15 UTC  

it's the one line I know from the talmud

2018-12-27 00:12:03 UTC  

First, I want to establish, do you think the Jews were right or the Christians?

2018-12-27 00:12:10 UTC  

jews

2018-12-27 00:12:17 UTC  

except

2018-12-27 00:12:21 UTC  

the "eye for an eye"

2018-12-27 00:12:30 UTC  

I agree with the talmudic statement

2018-12-27 00:13:23 UTC  

I found the full text in the talmud: http://www.come-and-hear.com/berakoth/berakoth_58.html

2018-12-27 00:13:49 UTC  

Thank you, I enjoy reading works of fiction.

2018-12-27 00:13:51 UTC  

" He said: This man is a persecutor, and the Torah has said: If a man comes to kill you, rise early and kill him first.18 "

2018-12-27 00:14:08 UTC  

talmud barely includes any narrative

2018-12-27 00:14:18 UTC  

I agree with that.

2018-12-27 00:14:25 UTC  

it's nonfiction by definition

2018-12-27 00:15:04 UTC  

Alright, it's a nonfiction philosophical work.

2018-12-27 00:15:12 UTC  

most of it is commentary

2018-12-27 00:15:23 UTC  

there is some narrative there

2018-12-27 00:15:31 UTC  

that has been passed down as "oral law"

2018-12-27 00:15:37 UTC  

which you can calim is fiction

2018-12-27 00:15:39 UTC  

I don't care

2018-12-27 00:16:39 UTC  

So, I am not very familiar with the Jewish religion specifically, I am much more familiar with it's derivatives: Christianity and Islam.

2018-12-27 00:16:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516711835857059867/527640948474380288/Yknow.jpg

2018-12-27 00:16:54 UTC  

Wut?

2018-12-27 00:16:57 UTC  

then why go on your rants about "ancient Jewish texts"

2018-12-27 00:16:58 UTC  

?

2018-12-27 00:17:11 UTC  

Because the Bible was written by a bunch of Jews.

2018-12-27 00:17:26 UTC  

new testament?

2018-12-27 00:17:51 UTC  

Much of it was written by people who were born Jewish.

2018-12-27 00:17:52 UTC  

when you say "ancient jewish texts" , that implies the tanach, not the new testament

2018-12-27 00:18:02 UTC  

any normal person will read it that way

2018-12-27 00:18:31 UTC  

@MinecraftMemer Don't fall for the "dead kike on a stick" meme

2018-12-27 00:18:41 UTC  

Christianity is literally all we have left

2018-12-27 00:19:02 UTC  

The last vestige of ancient tradition

2018-12-27 00:19:25 UTC  

Ancient tradition of singing songs?

2018-12-27 00:19:38 UTC  

You should really read Evola

2018-12-27 00:19:40 UTC  

or Guenon

2018-12-27 00:20:15 UTC  

"we think that if a Western tradition could be rebuilt it would be bound to take on a religious form in the strictest sense of this word, and that this form could only be Christian; for on the one hand the other possible forms have been too long foreign to the Western mentality, and on the other it is only in Christianity-and we can say still more definitely in Catholicism-that such remnants of a traditional spirit as still exist in the West are to be found. Every 'traditionalist' venture that ignores this fact is without foundation and therefore inevitably doomed to failure"

2018-12-27 00:20:19 UTC  

Just to repeat myself

2018-12-27 00:41:54 UTC  

If you seriously just reduced the traditions of an entire religion to "singing songs", you have an extremely shallow level of knowledge about said religion.