Message from @Reb Trump

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2018-12-27 00:01:52 UTC  

I think that the international Jew that Rockwell talk about is a symptom, not the disease.

2018-12-27 00:02:36 UTC  

The disease in Western society is contemporary religion, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, and everything it touches starts to deteriorate.

2018-12-27 00:04:55 UTC  

The issue is that those religions originate from a common point, ancient Judaism, which promote degenerate beliefs such as valuing weakness as humbleness, helplessness as forgiveness and ignorance as faith.

2018-12-27 00:05:31 UTC  

this is another one of those

2018-12-27 00:05:37 UTC  

where it's not written anywhere

2018-12-27 00:05:44 UTC  

but you know it's between the lines

2018-12-27 00:05:53 UTC  

and the rest of us are too brainwashed to see it

2018-12-27 00:06:02 UTC  

It's not brainwashed.

2018-12-27 00:06:11 UTC  

I think people see it very clearly.

2018-12-27 00:06:38 UTC  

"helplessness as forgiveness"

2018-12-27 00:06:55 UTC  

I found that from Nietzsche.

2018-12-27 00:06:58 UTC  

jewish texts teach that?

2018-12-27 00:07:36 UTC  

does nietzche give an example?

2018-12-27 00:07:43 UTC  

So in a Christian text, strongly inspired by Jewish beliefs.

2018-12-27 00:07:56 UTC  

looks like it's not there

2018-12-27 00:08:07 UTC  

hence you're jumping to christianity

2018-12-27 00:08:10 UTC  

In Luke 6:27 “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, "

2018-12-27 00:08:14 UTC  

nietzche probably meant

2018-12-27 00:08:15 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-27 00:08:17 UTC  

christianity

2018-12-27 00:08:24 UTC  

not "ancient jewish texts"

2018-12-27 00:08:27 UTC  

as you wanted to frame it

2018-12-27 00:09:03 UTC  

it's the opposite of what's in tanach and the talmud

2018-12-27 00:09:23 UTC  

Okay, what does it say in the Jewish texts?

2018-12-27 00:10:04 UTC  

torah talks about "eye for an eye", talmud teaches "if your enemy comes to kill you, get up early and kill him first"

2018-12-27 00:10:21 UTC  

I know about the eye for an eye Exodus 21:24

2018-12-27 00:10:47 UTC  

Where in the Talmud does it say "the get up early" thing?

2018-12-27 00:11:01 UTC  

I don't know the exact coordinates

2018-12-27 00:11:15 UTC  

it's the one line I know from the talmud

2018-12-27 00:12:03 UTC  

First, I want to establish, do you think the Jews were right or the Christians?

2018-12-27 00:12:10 UTC  

jews

2018-12-27 00:12:17 UTC  

except

2018-12-27 00:12:21 UTC  

the "eye for an eye"

2018-12-27 00:12:30 UTC  

I agree with the talmudic statement

2018-12-27 00:13:23 UTC  

I found the full text in the talmud: http://www.come-and-hear.com/berakoth/berakoth_58.html

2018-12-27 00:13:49 UTC  

Thank you, I enjoy reading works of fiction.

2018-12-27 00:13:51 UTC  

" He said: This man is a persecutor, and the Torah has said: If a man comes to kill you, rise early and kill him first.18 "

2018-12-27 00:14:08 UTC  

talmud barely includes any narrative

2018-12-27 00:14:18 UTC  

I agree with that.

2018-12-27 00:14:25 UTC  

it's nonfiction by definition

2018-12-27 00:15:04 UTC  

Alright, it's a nonfiction philosophical work.