Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-06-24 07:27:11 UTC  

wew lad its the same word

2018-06-24 07:27:22 UTC  

But very clearly not conceptually related.

2018-06-24 07:27:41 UTC  

sure but to say their not related is false

2018-06-24 07:27:51 UTC  

I don't think there can't be a third iteration of ideas.

2018-06-24 07:28:14 UTC  

The only way they're related is semantically, not conceptually. Arguing over that is further semantics.

2018-06-24 07:28:24 UTC  

in the history of forever there has alwasy been a new form of something

2018-06-24 07:28:38 UTC  

But has it ever been called neo-neo-X?

2018-06-24 07:28:47 UTC  

not yet

2018-06-24 07:29:01 UTC  

Why assume it as an absolute that it will?

2018-06-24 07:29:04 UTC  

Nazi ideology is still less than 100 years old

2018-06-24 07:29:26 UTC  

Nazi ideology is completely different from neo-Nazism. That's why they're separate concepts.

2018-06-24 07:29:34 UTC  

The only similarity is racial materialism.

2018-06-24 07:29:44 UTC  

Most neo-Nazis are just social reactionaries.

2018-06-24 07:30:00 UTC  

no I dont assume anything is absolute thats the point im making

2018-06-24 07:30:13 UTC  

So you're a postmodernist. 😎

2018-06-24 07:30:52 UTC  

sure if assumptions are now reality you post modernist

2018-06-24 07:31:55 UTC  

Postmodernism is just a rejection of metanarratives ("big stories" in Lyotard's original French).

2018-06-24 07:32:13 UTC  

Which fascism absolutely is. It's a metanarrative, a set of premises and a worldview.

2018-06-24 07:32:29 UTC  

That's why fascists hate postmodernism.

2018-06-24 07:32:37 UTC  

And why everyone on the right does as well.

2018-06-24 07:32:56 UTC  

It conflicts with fundamentalism, which usually entails religion for a lot of the right.

2018-06-24 07:33:15 UTC  

right < haha you see what I did there?

2018-06-24 07:33:55 UTC  

so I write stand up

2018-06-24 07:34:04 UTC  

The right conserve everything including injustice, the left destroys everything even goodness.

2018-06-24 07:34:44 UTC  

Im working on a bit that involves the fact that Fascism is typically antisemetic but also christian which means they worship a jew.

2018-06-24 07:35:31 UTC  

Which fascists were Christian?

2018-06-24 07:35:51 UTC  

im still working on it but most fascist I speak to are

2018-06-24 07:36:08 UTC  

Clerical fascism is kind of dumb.

2018-06-24 07:36:11 UTC  

they could just be larpers though

2018-06-24 07:36:23 UTC  

It's just fascism-lite in practice, like Salazar.

2018-06-24 07:36:35 UTC  

Was hitler not fascist?

2018-06-24 07:36:40 UTC  

But Codreanu was a hardcore religious nationalist and is unique for that reason as a fascist.

2018-06-24 07:36:48 UTC  

Yes Hitler was a fascist.

2018-06-24 07:37:09 UTC  

hitler encouraged christianity

2018-06-24 07:37:24 UTC  

It's not like that.

2018-06-24 07:37:41 UTC  

in laymans terms it is though

2018-06-24 07:38:06 UTC  

Elements within the NSDAP encouraged positive Christianity as a more esoteric Christianity that focused more on loyalty to the Party which was especially important in the Catholic south.

2018-06-24 07:38:13 UTC  

But Hitler personally was ambivalent to religion.

2018-06-24 07:38:24 UTC  

And was not a Christian himself.

2018-06-24 07:38:29 UTC  

sure

2018-06-24 07:38:46 UTC  

Long-term broadly the NSDAP wanted a neo-Pagan religion for Germany.