Message from @Josh42A

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2018-06-24 07:30:52 UTC  

sure if assumptions are now reality you post modernist

2018-06-24 07:31:55 UTC  

Postmodernism is just a rejection of metanarratives ("big stories" in Lyotard's original French).

2018-06-24 07:32:13 UTC  

Which fascism absolutely is. It's a metanarrative, a set of premises and a worldview.

2018-06-24 07:32:29 UTC  

That's why fascists hate postmodernism.

2018-06-24 07:32:37 UTC  

And why everyone on the right does as well.

2018-06-24 07:32:56 UTC  

It conflicts with fundamentalism, which usually entails religion for a lot of the right.

2018-06-24 07:33:15 UTC  

right < haha you see what I did there?

2018-06-24 07:33:55 UTC  

so I write stand up

2018-06-24 07:34:04 UTC  

The right conserve everything including injustice, the left destroys everything even goodness.

2018-06-24 07:34:44 UTC  

Im working on a bit that involves the fact that Fascism is typically antisemetic but also christian which means they worship a jew.

2018-06-24 07:35:31 UTC  

Which fascists were Christian?

2018-06-24 07:35:51 UTC  

im still working on it but most fascist I speak to are

2018-06-24 07:36:08 UTC  

Clerical fascism is kind of dumb.

2018-06-24 07:36:11 UTC  

they could just be larpers though

2018-06-24 07:36:23 UTC  

It's just fascism-lite in practice, like Salazar.

2018-06-24 07:36:35 UTC  

Was hitler not fascist?

2018-06-24 07:36:40 UTC  

But Codreanu was a hardcore religious nationalist and is unique for that reason as a fascist.

2018-06-24 07:36:48 UTC  

Yes Hitler was a fascist.

2018-06-24 07:37:09 UTC  

hitler encouraged christianity

2018-06-24 07:37:24 UTC  

It's not like that.

2018-06-24 07:37:41 UTC  

in laymans terms it is though

2018-06-24 07:38:06 UTC  

Elements within the NSDAP encouraged positive Christianity as a more esoteric Christianity that focused more on loyalty to the Party which was especially important in the Catholic south.

2018-06-24 07:38:13 UTC  

But Hitler personally was ambivalent to religion.

2018-06-24 07:38:24 UTC  

And was not a Christian himself.

2018-06-24 07:38:29 UTC  

sure

2018-06-24 07:38:46 UTC  

Long-term broadly the NSDAP wanted a neo-Pagan religion for Germany.

2018-06-24 07:38:52 UTC  

Especially the SS.

2018-06-24 07:38:54 UTC  

so his fascist regime promoted christianity

2018-06-24 07:39:07 UTC  

No, that'd be disingenuous to claim.

2018-06-24 07:39:09 UTC  

you the one going into semantics here not me

2018-06-24 07:39:19 UTC  

Positive Christianity wasn't very big.

2018-06-24 07:39:42 UTC  

How is it semantical?

2018-06-24 07:39:58 UTC  

hmm its splitting hairs

2018-06-24 07:40:12 UTC  

You made the claim Hitler promoted Cheistianity which is plainly false. Semantics doesn't mean splitting hairs, it means an argument based around definitions.

2018-06-24 07:40:35 UTC  

my bad its 4 AM

2018-06-24 07:41:15 UTC  

What group is it then that promotes antisemitism and christianity?

2018-06-24 07:41:30 UTC  

" In 1937, Hans Kerrl, the Nazi Minister for Church Affairs, explained that "Positive Christianity" was not "dependent upon the Apostle's Creed", nor was it dependent on "faith in Christ as the son ofGod", upon which Christianity relied, rather, it was represented by the Nazi Party: "The Führer is the herald of a new revelation", he said."

2018-06-24 07:41:52 UTC  

oh ok

2018-06-24 07:43:02 UTC  

is it the Alt-Right?

2018-06-24 07:43:04 UTC  

Plenty of clerical fascists are Christians that are also anti-Semitic, supposedly under the assumption that Jesus was a Christian and not a Jew and that Jews killed Jesus.

2018-06-24 07:43:07 UTC  

Which is a huge meme because Cheistianity would not become distinct as a religion instead of as a sect of Judaism until the 300's.