Message from @Josh42A

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2018-06-24 07:21:48 UTC  

it literally just means new

2018-06-24 07:22:12 UTC  

It means a detraction from original ideas.

2018-06-24 07:22:35 UTC  

Neo-imperialism is different from imperialism, neo-Nazism is different from Nazism.

2018-06-24 07:22:48 UTC  

go look in chat

2018-06-24 07:23:18 UTC  

Yeah I see that.

2018-06-24 07:23:32 UTC  

But that's semantics. It doesn't mean anything.

2018-06-24 07:23:45 UTC  

thats my point for fucks sake

2018-06-24 07:24:03 UTC  

Neo-imperialism is "new" imperialism because intranational governments made direct conquest impossible. It won't ever be not neo-imperialism simply because it's old.

2018-06-24 07:24:28 UTC  

but in 10 years what do we call neo neo imperialism

2018-06-24 07:24:38 UTC  

We won't because it will be the same.

2018-06-24 07:24:52 UTC  

its like calling a city New York

2018-06-24 07:25:02 UTC  

It's not like that at all.

2018-06-24 07:25:08 UTC  

fake news

2018-06-24 07:25:28 UTC  

lol

2018-06-24 07:25:33 UTC  

how is it not?

2018-06-24 07:26:21 UTC  

so what makes you think there cant be a second form of neo nazi or neo conservitive?

2018-06-24 07:26:42 UTC  

Assigning New to city names was a gimmick to attract people in the Americas with the assumption it will be similar to the European city, in this case York. Assigning neo as a prefix to an ideology means it's a detraction from original ideas.

2018-06-24 07:26:51 UTC  

They're not related concepts at all.

2018-06-24 07:27:11 UTC  

wew lad its the same word

2018-06-24 07:27:22 UTC  

But very clearly not conceptually related.

2018-06-24 07:27:41 UTC  

sure but to say their not related is false

2018-06-24 07:27:51 UTC  

I don't think there can't be a third iteration of ideas.

2018-06-24 07:28:14 UTC  

The only way they're related is semantically, not conceptually. Arguing over that is further semantics.

2018-06-24 07:28:24 UTC  

in the history of forever there has alwasy been a new form of something

2018-06-24 07:28:38 UTC  

But has it ever been called neo-neo-X?

2018-06-24 07:28:47 UTC  

not yet

2018-06-24 07:29:01 UTC  

Why assume it as an absolute that it will?

2018-06-24 07:29:04 UTC  

Nazi ideology is still less than 100 years old

2018-06-24 07:29:26 UTC  

Nazi ideology is completely different from neo-Nazism. That's why they're separate concepts.

2018-06-24 07:29:34 UTC  

The only similarity is racial materialism.

2018-06-24 07:29:44 UTC  

Most neo-Nazis are just social reactionaries.

2018-06-24 07:30:00 UTC  

no I dont assume anything is absolute thats the point im making

2018-06-24 07:30:13 UTC  

So you're a postmodernist. 😎

2018-06-24 07:30:52 UTC  

sure if assumptions are now reality you post modernist

2018-06-24 07:31:55 UTC  

Postmodernism is just a rejection of metanarratives ("big stories" in Lyotard's original French).

2018-06-24 07:32:13 UTC  

Which fascism absolutely is. It's a metanarrative, a set of premises and a worldview.

2018-06-24 07:32:29 UTC  

That's why fascists hate postmodernism.

2018-06-24 07:32:37 UTC  

And why everyone on the right does as well.

2018-06-24 07:32:56 UTC  

It conflicts with fundamentalism, which usually entails religion for a lot of the right.

2018-06-24 07:33:15 UTC  

right < haha you see what I did there?

2018-06-24 07:33:55 UTC  

so I write stand up