Message from @Joe Powerhouse

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2018-07-27 18:32:30 UTC  

That's the motherload of honeypots for baddies

2018-07-27 18:32:33 UTC  

for QOTD answers

2018-07-27 18:32:35 UTC  

Oh ok sorry

2018-07-27 18:33:02 UTC  

The only bigger honeypots I can think of are in communism and ancapitalism

2018-07-27 18:36:00 UTC  

how is it a honeypot?

2018-07-27 18:57:13 UTC  

pleasure from seeing both sides fighting I guess?

2018-07-27 19:05:51 UTC  

Tribalism?

2018-07-27 19:10:12 UTC  

idk, it just doesn't make any sense to me to refer to vaccines as a honeypot to me

2018-07-27 19:20:50 UTC  

Create a disease that infects and wipes out harmful bacteria and viruses, yet doesn't harm other cells/life? I see no way that can go wrong.

2018-07-27 19:24:51 UTC  

I can imagine post-antibiotic healthcare similar to "chemo" for different diseases. Of course, most diseases caused by bacteria and viruses are not terminal so treatment for, say, measles would be short-lived and mild compared to cancer. Especially if they can target specifically the measles virus.

2018-07-27 19:30:06 UTC  

Eventually we will have another Alexander Fleming and another penicillin. And then diseases will resist that method to; an eternal arms race until one side gets wiped out. At least, that's the telos of medicine science, to end sickness.

2018-07-27 19:52:35 UTC  

Seems fair

2018-07-27 19:53:43 UTC  

At the end we can't run away from evolution

2018-07-27 20:37:49 UTC  

@Joe Powerhouse What are you referring to when you say "disease that infects and wipes out harmful bacteria and viruses"

2018-07-27 20:38:35 UTC  

I can only assume you must be referring to bacteriophages

2018-07-27 20:38:48 UTC  

Which wouldn't be created, but rather incubated out of nature

2018-07-27 20:39:22 UTC  

"Eventually we will have another Alexander Fleming and another penicillin. And then diseases will resist that method to; an eternal arms race until one side gets wiped out. At least, that's the telos of medicine science, to end sickness."

2018-07-27 20:39:52 UTC  

yes, an eternal arms race which has already been going on ever since life on earth even began

2018-07-27 20:40:07 UTC  

im sure that when humans start using them it will totes make any difference whatsoever lad

2018-07-27 20:40:24 UTC  

as if penicillin ever evolved

2018-07-27 20:44:35 UTC  

Incubating pathogens from nature and genetically modifying them to wipe out other pathogens is what I meant.

2018-07-27 20:45:08 UTC  

I wasn't familiar with phage therapy until now.

2018-07-27 20:47:01 UTC  

Yeah, I don't see any sort of issue with genetically modified pathogens for that purpose. Can you provide some kind of example of such a treatment being used?

2018-07-27 21:22:53 UTC  

Vaccines should be not only be *not* mandatory, we should make vaccine receivers watch what goes into a vaccine every time they get one.

2018-07-27 21:27:45 UTC  

are u stupid

2018-07-27 21:28:07 UTC  

a:yes

2018-07-27 21:28:17 UTC  

excellent argument rebuttal, hanaso

2018-07-27 21:28:21 UTC  

@Alexander Ramsey Vaccines are a honeypot because if someone finds chemicals that make people unknowingly complacent, BOOM, everyone could be forced to be controlled with no questions. People don't know how to find out what's actually in their vaccines.

2018-07-27 21:29:47 UTC  

I WOULD RATHER HAVE TYPHUS THAN THIS TINY AMOUNT OF MERCURY!!111

2018-07-27 21:30:01 UTC  

lol what a joke

2018-07-27 21:30:24 UTC  

Do you think that's what I'm saying or the other guy?

2018-07-27 21:30:56 UTC  

what are you saying

2018-07-27 21:31:08 UTC  

i'd love to hear about what's in a typhus shot, just in particular to make things easier

2018-07-27 21:31:53 UTC  

You can find out what's in vaccines though

2018-07-27 21:32:29 UTC  

and how exactly those contents are dangerous

2018-07-27 21:32:51 UTC  

That's why the anti-vaccers have caught on because they do REEEEEEE about the little bit of Mercury in them

2018-07-27 21:34:06 UTC  

See, that's the thing though, the amount and way it's mixed isn't dangerous @Mrz65

2018-07-27 21:34:52 UTC  

isnt there literally more mercury in tuna than in vaccines

2018-07-27 21:36:42 UTC  

if a chemical is discovered that makes people complacent without lowering their productivity and can be deployed without any of the safeguards in place tripping to warn to the vast majority of people who take their vaccines without worrying about it then whatever minor % of the population that refuses to take vaccines won't make a difference in the overall outcome.

What's actually real and tangible right now are horrible crippling diseases which are made more likely to spread throughout the populace by the people not getting vaccinated.

2018-07-27 21:37:44 UTC  

@Mrz65 a shit ton more, just like there is more arsenic in apples than in vaccines

2018-07-27 21:38:45 UTC  

Mercury and arsenic are both needed by your body it's just that they are in such low numbers (both body and vaccine) that it doesn't matter