that's what's gonna keep us alive

until oil runs out in 40 years

The two factors i mentioned are related and are not standalone

China doesnt have as many prisons and has more rural areas

all mass-capitalism has lead to in Europe is it's destruction

yeah capitalism encourages innovation

we'll figure it out

no we won't

I don't think you realise how big oil companies are and how unwilling they would be to have a new competition

they won't be so big once oil runs out

He never heard of tesla

good point

doesn't elon musk have a solar company that's good

solarcity or something

Tesla is a meme

Space colonization is a meme

also I don't think I'll be able to convince you on anything since my views put economics near the bottom of concerns

Electric cars arent though

SPACE FORCE IS A MAYMAY

i've been on both sides of the neolib debate enough times to be pretty secure in my beliefs

@Deleted User what economic system do you advocate for?

Capitalism forces greedy people to help others, while in other systems they can just use force to take what is not theirs.

@21tagtmeiern I literally do not care about the economy, however I would say it would have to slowly shift out of capitalism and into an Organic Economy

I technically see all modern government as corrupted and needing of destruction more than anything, but that's my immediate want for a system I don't support

how does an organic economy differ from capitalism?

Do you mean like this? https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Organic_Economy_Model

@CryptoBlok that is quiet similar, yes

Glad to be of help!

I still think free-market capitalism can better handle the problems this other model claims to address, though.

it obviously depends on the traditions you're talking about

and the kind of economic growth

the 'economic growth' derived from a social media platform like Facebook seems like something that has contributed next to nothing to the wellbeing or further productivity of society at large

Yeah, it could be Islamic traditions or some such thing

or a tradition of shitting on the street

I believe objective morality transcends traditions - not that all traditions should be thrown out, of course, but they need to serve the Good, not just the Old.

lmao okay

what do you think objective morality is, then

My belief is that morality is based on the purpose God created us for.

Doing His will is good, and disobeying is evil/deleterious

right

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