Message from @Kosaki

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2018-08-23 18:34:32 UTC  

*solution

2018-08-23 18:34:35 UTC  

UBI of 10,000$ per year (still below poverty line) would cost 2.6 trillion $ per year. Meaning that confiscating __all__ the wealth of those worth over 1 million dollars would find the program for 5 months. Meaning that after a very small threshold, you would only be getting your money back or losing it. It would cause the rich to not be able to create jobs for the poor and consumer products for the middle class. In addition, it would be extremely dangerous during an election period as a candidate could just run and promise to make it higher to get more votes.

2018-08-23 18:34:43 UTC  

@Kosaki is obviously a troll

2018-08-23 18:34:47 UTC  

My main fear is that UBI would basically go into effect, the stupid poor would waste it all, and cry for another rent/food subsidy scheme, and then we're stuck with an even more expensive system.

2018-08-23 18:34:50 UTC  

I am not, I love post irony

2018-08-23 18:35:18 UTC  

Which I think is very likely in the USA/UK/Germany (soon)

2018-08-23 18:35:50 UTC  

Denmark if given an extremely strict immigration policy that restricted 1st gen migrants and even 2nd gen, would work alright with UBI

2018-08-23 18:35:51 UTC  

Waste it all on what? the newest iphone?

2018-08-23 18:35:55 UTC  

Yeah

2018-08-23 18:36:00 UTC  

they'd spend the months UBI on an iphone

2018-08-23 18:36:01 UTC  

then starve

2018-08-23 18:36:03 UTC  

I dont think the poor in those developed countries are stupid at all

2018-08-23 18:36:04 UTC  

or not pay rent

2018-08-23 18:36:12 UTC  

Most have basic education

2018-08-23 18:36:20 UTC  

People who are poor all their life are dumb

2018-08-23 18:36:26 UTC  

people who are poor for a year are unlucky

2018-08-23 18:36:35 UTC  

Just the ones who didnt go to school

2018-08-23 18:36:48 UTC  

They're dumb because they became educated in a worthless field

2018-08-23 18:37:07 UTC  

And even then, you can drop out and make a successful career

2018-08-23 18:37:12 UTC  

Yeah true

2018-08-23 18:37:14 UTC  

PHD = dumb

2018-08-23 18:37:16 UTC  

Yeap

2018-08-23 18:37:19 UTC  

<:Brainlet:457605183606620171>

2018-08-23 18:37:24 UTC  

PhD = couldn't get a job with bachelors or masters or hs diploma

2018-08-23 18:37:29 UTC  

bachelors = default

2018-08-23 18:37:35 UTC  

masters = couldn't get a job with bachelors

2018-08-23 18:37:58 UTC  

Me in a few years

2018-08-23 18:38:03 UTC  

not really tho

2018-08-23 18:38:07 UTC  

Most associates/bachelors/masters/PhDs are actually BAD for you

2018-08-23 18:38:14 UTC  

if you apply to a fucking job with an associates in arts or something

2018-08-23 18:38:19 UTC  

they'll just assume you're gonna leave later

2018-08-23 18:39:05 UTC  

gets progressively worse

2018-08-23 18:39:40 UTC  

depends on the job

2018-08-23 18:39:47 UTC  

I think UBI for a limited period could work very well

2018-08-23 18:40:01 UTC  

Swiss do this

2018-08-23 18:40:13 UTC  

You get a stipend if you go to uni or training for an in demand skill

2018-08-23 18:40:25 UTC  

Say welding, during the 6 months training you get paid by the gov

2018-08-23 18:42:40 UTC  

As of now your success during the first 4 years of your life at 18(if going to uni) is almost entirely dependent on your family's wealth/stability

2018-08-23 18:43:01 UTC  

<:pepe_sad:305572669938466828>

2018-08-23 18:46:46 UTC  

Opps lol

2018-08-23 18:49:06 UTC  

@21tagtmeiern I think most employers besides large corporations look at anything that isn't STEM or specific career training (nursing, etc.) as a liability