Sometimes you need a tyrant to protect democracy

Authoritarian is nessesary, what people are against when they *think* authoritarian is is actually Anarcho-tyranny

i see authoritarianism as a tool

I can justify anything but you don't have accept my justification. i could justify fascism by saying because I felt like it and that would be my justification

to prepare people for a more chill thingy

Auth should only be used in an emergency and only for emergency

Otherwise, no.

"Whenever respect for the State declines and the disintegrating and centrifugal tendencies of individuals and groups prevail, nations are headed for decay"

I take the same stance as endeavour. No society can survive with *freedom* as its core value. We must enforce some cultural norm/identity.

@campodin China has existed for over a thousand years

If theres a constitution, do we really have free will?

actually longer than that. but w/e

@Deleted User your point?

China isn't free

Freedom is certainly not one of their core values

And they are still around and will always be around

Does freedom even exist ?

Freedom as a core value Dosen't mean absolute freedom of anarchy you dipshits

'freedom' is a term only people with sub hundred iq would ever use

A republican democracy united in a common culture is completely possible

FullAuths are retarded because it isn't sustainable

Authoritarianism is why China is as successful as it is tbh

At the cost of?

by authoritarianism do you mean the ideology?

or the polical compass sector

Freedom is just the ability to pursue your own interest. Societies need a goal which is given by culture.

"Heaven is high and the emperor is far away" China was clannic rather than authoritarian in the modern sense

I think the discussion is about the military being the most powerful sect in the country

some cultures need more authority than others

If there is a society, there is authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is what creates justice and trust.

We need to protect our culture and discourage foreign cultures, especially from certain areas of the world

No it means power being centralized into a single person mainly

@campodin that's completely possible with a democratic society

Democracy always leads to leftism

Authority might also include a council which is like-minded imo

>power being centralized into a single person mainly
that's an autocracy, power can be shared and still be authoritarian

*mainly*

Nig.

Authority in itself isn't bad or more or less natural, look where it got us today, whther or not the present day is good or not is up to debate but I'm personnaly fine with it.

@campodin Democracy is the pathway to Marxism

There are some things even anarchists are against. Authoritarianism is mere realisation that to preserve something consistently, force over what might be little different is required