Message from @Doctor Anon

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2018-08-27 23:00:01 UTC  

Sometimes you need a tyrant to protect democracy

2018-08-27 23:00:02 UTC  

Authoritarian is nessesary, what people are against when they *think* authoritarian is is actually Anarcho-tyranny

2018-08-27 23:00:27 UTC  

i see authoritarianism as a tool

2018-08-27 23:00:37 UTC  

I can justify anything but you don't have accept my justification. i could justify fascism by saying because I felt like it and that would be my justification

2018-08-27 23:00:42 UTC  

to prepare people for a more chill thingy

2018-08-27 23:00:46 UTC  

Auth should only be used in an emergency and only for emergency

2018-08-27 23:00:49 UTC  

Otherwise, no.

2018-08-27 23:01:11 UTC  

"Whenever respect for the State declines and the disintegrating and centrifugal tendencies of individuals and groups prevail, nations are headed for decay"

2018-08-27 23:01:15 UTC  

I take the same stance as endeavour. No society can survive with *freedom* as its core value. We must enforce some cultural norm/identity.

2018-08-27 23:01:38 UTC  

@campodin China has existed for over a thousand years

2018-08-27 23:01:48 UTC  

If theres a constitution, do we really have free will?

2018-08-27 23:02:16 UTC  

actually longer than that. but w/e

2018-08-27 23:02:28 UTC  

@Deleted User your point?

2018-08-27 23:02:36 UTC  

China isn't free

2018-08-27 23:02:47 UTC  

Freedom is certainly not one of their core values

2018-08-27 23:02:54 UTC  

And they are still around and will always be around

2018-08-27 23:03:40 UTC  

Does freedom even exist ?

2018-08-27 23:04:12 UTC  

Freedom as a core value Dosen't mean absolute freedom of anarchy you dipshits

2018-08-27 23:04:48 UTC  

'freedom' is a term only people with sub hundred iq would ever use

2018-08-27 23:05:15 UTC  

A republican democracy united in a common culture is completely possible

2018-08-27 23:05:34 UTC  

FullAuths are retarded because it isn't sustainable

2018-08-27 23:05:40 UTC  

Authoritarianism is why China is as successful as it is tbh

2018-08-27 23:05:48 UTC  

At the cost of?

2018-08-27 23:05:51 UTC  

by authoritarianism do you mean the ideology?

2018-08-27 23:06:03 UTC  

or the polical compass sector

2018-08-27 23:06:04 UTC  

Freedom is just the ability to pursue your own interest. Societies need a goal which is given by culture.

2018-08-27 23:06:10 UTC  

"Heaven is high and the emperor is far away" China was clannic rather than authoritarian in the modern sense

2018-08-27 23:06:34 UTC  

I think the discussion is about the military being the most powerful sect in the country

2018-08-27 23:06:48 UTC  

some cultures need more authority than others

2018-08-27 23:06:58 UTC  

If there is a society, there is authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is what creates justice and trust.

2018-08-27 23:07:02 UTC  

We need to protect our culture and discourage foreign cultures, especially from certain areas of the world

2018-08-27 23:07:03 UTC  

No it means power being centralized into a single person mainly

2018-08-27 23:07:21 UTC  

@campodin that's completely possible with a democratic society

2018-08-27 23:07:38 UTC  

Democracy always leads to leftism

2018-08-27 23:07:41 UTC  

Authority might also include a council which is like-minded imo

2018-08-27 23:08:03 UTC  

>power being centralized into a single person mainly
that's an autocracy, power can be shared and still be authoritarian

2018-08-27 23:08:16 UTC  

*mainly*

2018-08-27 23:08:19 UTC  

Nig.

2018-08-27 23:09:15 UTC  

Authority in itself isn't bad or more or less natural, look where it got us today, whther or not the present day is good or not is up to debate but I'm personnaly fine with it.

2018-08-27 23:10:12 UTC  

@campodin Democracy is the pathway to Marxism

2018-08-27 23:13:19 UTC  

There are some things even anarchists are against. Authoritarianism is mere realisation that to preserve something consistently, force over what might be little different is required