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2018-08-28 08:17:11 UTC  

The only way you can make a policy stick is if you can prevent the other side from overhauling it, so many policies that are implemented are focused on securing power, moreso than the common good.

2018-08-28 09:52:22 UTC  

I would argue that a major flaw of democracy or any multiparty system is that there rarely if ever is any underlying ideological foundation for what the parties are doing, rather there are multiple ideologies that are brought to the table constantly, and in the end the govorment represents literally nothing like toothlessjay said.

In order for a republic or democracy to work everyone must participate with the same underlying ideological foundation and work from there, say if nationalisms "The good of the nation, the people" is the underlying foundation then all decisions made nad all platforms proposed operate under the same goal, the same relative direction, even if the ideas or methods by which to get to that goal differ. As such the govorment then represents something, and that would be striving for the good of the poeple and generally their will. The issue then arises on how to maintain this ideologicla foundation, make sur eit doesnt slip from the public mind and dissapear into some nether realm where it waits silently for someone to dig it up and clean it of the cobwebs of history.

However authoritarianism is not an irrational position and may be required at times to rip a country from crisis with decicive and focused action which is the major benefit of authoritarianism. A military is hardly a democracy, at best it could be an oligarchy of advocates to a head ruler. However the military needs ot be decisive and as such, for example in times of strife, the people could elect a temporary dictator until stability is returned and a vote is cast to maintain the dictator or remove him from office.

2018-08-28 13:42:26 UTC  

authoritarian is not synonymous with totalitarian

2018-08-28 13:50:04 UTC  

Well, Totalitarianism is a bit hard to define. In its original meaning it was an intrinsically Fascist phenomenon.

2018-08-28 15:18:01 UTC  

Authoritarianism is absolutely necessary in the beginning stages of national rebirth, but within a few years it should dwindle down to federalism or confederalism.

2018-08-28 15:24:23 UTC  

Authoritarianism will always be necessary.

2018-08-28 16:02:57 UTC  

I think authoritarianism is necessary in waves, when leftism starts taking over an authoritarian reaction is required to bring things back into balance, its essentially a strongman jumping in on the right wing team every so often in the political tug of war. He does his job and out of exhaustion eventually leaves.

2018-08-28 16:20:06 UTC  

That wouldn't work, a strongman wouldn't just give up power like that. Furthermore, it is simply easier to suppress dissenters when they are fringe.

2018-08-28 16:32:58 UTC  

Thats why i mention of exhaustion, the exhaustion can be self induced or induced by his enviorment so his own team struggling for breath or desire to get back into the fray. The event of the strongman entering is catalyzed however his removal is not catalyzed so when he is removed I would expect there to be a lot of turmoil.

2018-08-28 22:40:11 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

What is the primary purpose of government? What should the role of a nation's leaders be?

2018-08-28 22:40:16 UTC  

2018-08-28 22:40:24 UTC  

the protect the people

2018-08-28 22:40:25 UTC  

and like

2018-08-28 22:40:31 UTC  

make stuff easier for them

2018-08-28 22:40:39 UTC  

and to make sure they dont get spergy

2018-08-28 22:40:47 UTC  

Yeah exactly

2018-08-28 22:40:54 UTC  

Thats what Socrates said

2018-08-28 22:40:54 UTC  

it is to protect the culture of the nation and to help its people

2018-08-28 22:41:00 UTC  

He was right

2018-08-28 22:41:21 UTC  

removing the fucking cultural marxists

2018-08-28 22:41:38 UTC  

"cultural marxists"

2018-08-28 22:41:39 UTC  

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2018-08-28 22:41:39 UTC  

lol xd

2018-08-28 22:41:44 UTC  

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2018-08-28 22:41:58 UTC  

the state is everything

2018-08-28 22:42:24 UTC  

I mean

2018-08-28 22:42:27 UTC  

to help the people

2018-08-28 22:42:31 UTC  

Protect the nation, enforce law and order, punish criminals

2018-08-28 22:42:50 UTC  

to ensure as many residents, both within and out of the nation, live the happiest life they possibly can

2018-08-28 22:43:23 UTC  

@campodin and preserve culture

2018-08-28 22:43:34 UTC  

"culture"

2018-08-28 22:43:37 UTC  

way too vague of a term

2018-08-28 22:43:45 UTC  

@The American Nationalist that is contained in nation imo

2018-08-28 22:43:54 UTC  

Socrates made a great analogy, government to the people is what medicine is to the human body

2018-08-28 22:44:17 UTC  

it should only exist in a minimal form, and only when people are in need?

2018-08-28 22:44:26 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-28 22:44:42 UTC  

that's what medicine is, essentially

2018-08-28 22:44:42 UTC  

@Alice Redacted culture is much more defined than "happiness"

2018-08-28 22:44:49 UTC  

Happiness

2018-08-28 22:44:50 UTC  

fine

2018-08-28 22:44:54 UTC  

a high quality of life