Message from @oscar

Discord ID: 486214636601999360


2018-09-03 16:40:51 UTC  

Are you talking about impulse control?

2018-09-03 16:40:56 UTC  

Impulses aren't emotions

2018-09-03 16:41:07 UTC  

Emotions aren't impulses

2018-09-03 16:41:15 UTC  

Anger is an emotion, and you may have to control it if you love your wife, for example.

2018-09-03 16:41:28 UTC  

That's fair

2018-09-03 16:41:36 UTC  

Impulse control is ONLY hard when there is a strong emotion under it

2018-09-03 16:41:37 UTC  

but you seem to be saying that emotions, in general, are bad

2018-09-03 16:41:47 UTC  

No, I am saying that they need to be structured rationally

2018-09-03 16:41:47 UTC  

and that we should rid ourselves of them

2018-09-03 16:42:05 UTC  

If you try to cover them up, they'll come out somewhere else

2018-09-03 16:42:13 UTC  

Everything we do is based in emotions

2018-09-03 16:42:15 UTC  

Of course, venting is useful at times

2018-09-03 16:42:21 UTC  

It's just a matter of whether or not we're acting rationally

2018-09-03 16:42:23 UTC  

expressing them in some way

2018-09-03 16:42:37 UTC  

be it to a friend, a lover, through writing, painting, or whatever you enjoy

2018-09-03 16:42:55 UTC  

acting purely "rationally" in a "realpolitik" sort of way is dangerous

2018-09-03 16:43:00 UTC  

particularly to those lacking power

2018-09-03 16:43:08 UTC  

Empathy is a powerful emotion.

2018-09-03 16:43:18 UTC  

I don't believe that empathy is an emotion

2018-09-03 16:43:19 UTC  

One which we should never risk suppressing.

2018-09-03 16:43:22 UTC  

Do you mean compassion

2018-09-03 16:43:26 UTC  

It's most certainly a feeling one has towards another

2018-09-03 16:43:33 UTC  

compassion, care, love, whatever you name it

2018-09-03 16:43:45 UTC  

Sympathy... all similar words, all feelings divorced from pragmatism

2018-09-03 16:43:57 UTC  

I can feel empathetic towards another

2018-09-03 16:44:44 UTC  

When oxytocin, the chemical that causes compassion, is increased it actually leads to warlike and tribal behavior

2018-09-03 16:45:18 UTC  

I'd like to ask for a citation

2018-09-03 16:46:38 UTC  

ah

2018-09-03 16:46:44 UTC  

in-group/out-group favoritism?

2018-09-03 16:47:13 UTC  

Altruism is game theoretic

2018-09-03 16:47:22 UTC  

And unconditional love for all people generally fails

2018-09-03 16:47:33 UTC  

Looking at it, it seems to benefit the in-group link

2018-09-03 16:47:34 UTC  

Reciprocity is a better goal for empathy

2018-09-03 16:47:41 UTC  

rather than damage opinions of an out-group

2018-09-03 16:47:53 UTC  

Also, they can both function side by side

2018-09-03 16:48:01 UTC  

Besides, in-group altruism can actually benefit out-groups

2018-09-03 17:27:42 UTC  

Primary/elementary is to teach kids to be good citizens and anything beyond is to teach skills to be good workers.

2018-09-03 17:29:01 UTC  

^

2018-09-03 19:02:06 UTC  

No government is truthful about the nature of the state to its children

2018-09-03 19:02:26 UTC  

its all dressed up in nonsense or not talked about at all

2018-09-03 19:53:59 UTC  

stop pinging u dicks