Message from @campodin

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2018-09-06 22:48:10 UTC  

You have to define things to debate

2018-09-06 22:48:15 UTC  

None of which you have done.

2018-09-06 22:48:45 UTC  

You haven't told me how it exists, why it exists, when it came to exist, where it exists, what it exists as.

2018-09-06 22:49:03 UTC  

Only said it does

2018-09-06 22:49:06 UTC  

Which is faith.

2018-09-06 22:49:13 UTC  

Which apparently is an opinion m

2018-09-06 22:49:15 UTC  

Wtf? Most of those questions don't apply to morality at all

2018-09-06 22:49:18 UTC  

And opinions are not facts.

2018-09-06 22:49:44 UTC  

The relate to the existence of this "objective" morality.

2018-09-06 22:49:47 UTC  

Whatever that is.

2018-09-06 22:50:00 UTC  

And that is what we are talking about, not morality itself.

2018-09-06 22:50:11 UTC  

But the existence of an objective reality.

2018-09-06 22:50:44 UTC  

That was the question

2018-09-06 22:51:01 UTC  

What? Are you treating morality as an object?

2018-09-06 22:51:10 UTC  

Is morality objective, or subjective?

2018-09-06 22:51:18 UTC  

You said objective, so that means it exists.

2018-09-06 22:51:34 UTC  

Which means there is a way to validate the facts surrounding it.

2018-09-06 22:52:08 UTC  

A concept can not be objective.

2018-09-06 22:52:28 UTC  

Yeah things can exist without a where or why or "what it exists as"

2018-09-06 22:52:41 UTC  

I am not arguing against it, I'm asking how it is, and what it is.

2018-09-06 22:52:48 UTC  

Where does the speed of light exist?

2018-09-06 22:52:58 UTC  

In the speed of light.

2018-09-06 22:53:19 UTC  

That's not a where

2018-09-06 22:53:19 UTC  

It exists in light.

2018-09-06 22:53:26 UTC  

No it doesn't

2018-09-06 22:53:50 UTC  

The speed of light has nothing to do with light itself

2018-09-06 22:54:05 UTC  

So the speed of light does not exist in the speed of light?

2018-09-06 22:54:17 UTC  

Then it's just a number.

2018-09-06 22:54:20 UTC  

A concept.

2018-09-06 22:54:25 UTC  

It is a characteristic of the fabric of spacetime

2018-09-06 22:55:19 UTC  

If it is a characteristic then it exists within what it is a characteristic of.

2018-09-06 22:56:20 UTC  

Are you now saying that Morality is a characteristic of Objective Morality?

2018-09-06 22:56:39 UTC  

I'm not quite sure where we are.

2018-09-06 22:58:02 UTC  

Speed of light is a characteristic of everything and their relation to each other. There is no where.

2018-09-06 22:58:21 UTC  

It is a characteristic of nothing too

2018-09-06 22:58:36 UTC  

So it is every*where*?

2018-09-06 22:59:28 UTC  

And there is no such thing as nothingness.

2018-09-06 22:59:43 UTC  

Unless there is, but then we wouldn't know about it.

2018-09-06 23:00:00 UTC  

It is a fundamental aspect of the universes existence itself.

2018-09-06 23:00:13 UTC  

Nothing is the lack of existence.

2018-09-06 23:00:22 UTC  

To say it exists is a paradox.