Message from @Snakeisninja
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It is a matter of probability
@Snakeisninja Aborting a baby with down syndrome is not the same as aborting a healthy baby
@εïз irma εïз I've explained at length why you misunderstand what materialism is. I see no reason to repeat myself again.
That is where the subjectivity comes in, because I would say in almost every circumstance it would be immoral
Guess you're just bad at explaining things.
aside from ones similar to the above
Fine, I will repost it again not sure what good that will do. This is the last time
materialism posits that everything is reducible to matter so to speak
I do not believe that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.
I believe that matter is ONE fundamental substance in nature along with the imaterial
Aborting healthy babies is bad for obvious reasons
You should want your nation to have a large population
I you're still confused please reread my earlier posts.
Yes, you may not be a materialist. But your notion of morality is purely materialist. I don't know how these two ideas are at odds.
My notion of morality does NOT posit that everything is reducible to matter.
"You just don't understand me MOM" is not an argument.
***What is your moral system*** @εïз irma εïз
It could, to be fair, but it could just as easily not
maybe that should highlight the difference
@The Big Oof have you considered the health issues associated with the mother when she has an abortion?
Christian objectivism.
@εïз irma εïз Really? That's badass
Why are we fighting
@campodin Depends
Zexy and I will be bffs now
Depends on what?
Unrelated to Ayn Rand.
Darn I have to join vc on another server because I promised I would 😦
I would just say it's best to prevent people with down syndrome from existing
This has been a great discussion
Its a shame we couldn't get more into it but lets talk again
@The Big Oof why not just prevent them from reproducing?
Institutions have to be erected to care for them
Ayn Rand is based
Change my mind
Not really, many already exist, and parents do a lot of the caring for them themselves
You wouldn't need to change much atm
If you're a 17 y/o boy Ayn Rand is cool for two seconds.
As much as I hate to say it, even Karl Marx is a better philosopher than Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand should lead the new world order
Imo objectivist use of "selfishness" is disingenuous
karl marx wasnt a bad philosopher