"No individuals or groups (political parties, cultural associations, economic unions, social classes) outside the State (15). Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State " @Zayan Watchel

From The Doctrine of Fascism

Fascism is anti-socialism

The Nazis, aside from the Strasserists, were not socialists

They were capitalists

Mussolini, however, was neither

Oh, they're definetly two separate things, without a doubt, but they're also pretty similar in some regards. I haven't read any Fascist literature in years, but I remember watching a YT video by some economist. I'll see if I can't scrap it up. I'll probably re-read some mussolini sometime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqVXDyYy78

I thought that fascism was pretty left wing when I read Mussolini.

That's because Mussolini was largely infleunced by his blacksmith father who had a alot of socialist views and opinions.
Mussolini was part of a socialist party with marxist wings, but after finding out about the marxists he left them.

I am watching this video as I type this.

It is best seen as "Third Position" rather than as far right or far left.

An issue I have with fascism being labeled left wing is that fascism emphasizes duty and loyalty to the nation, and its economic approach is often coming from a nationalist angle, in other words, not wanting your people to be whored out to big business, while trying to find middle ground between employers and employees.

This quote, I posted earlier

"Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State ""

reflects this.

Also, this guy's quote at around 6:30

"Fascism outlaws private property"

No, not necessarily. Hitler, for instance, was extremely pro-private property. He was a lot more radical in his younger years, but as he gained power, he largely abandoned his socialist policies.
This is why there was a conflict between Hitler and the Strasserists

@Zayan Watchel

Hitler privatized nearly all of German'y state owned industry

Also, in Mussolini

In Mussolini's younger years, he was active in socialist groups, but as he grew older, he abandoned socialism

Some of these comparisons are really tenuous

"The two differences are that fascism is ethno-nationalistic and socialism is internationalist"

The most obvious difference is the question of class, fascists realize that hierarchy is a product of evolution and a key ingredient to a healthy society, and therefore believe in a class based society, but with collaboration, whereas socialists want to abolish class altogether

From there, you can move downwards and find all sorts of differences

"Fascists seek imperial conquest"

Depends on the fascist

Hitler, Mussolini, and Salazar, yes,

However, others such as Peron were isolationist

Don't waste your time on watching academic agent's video, that guy is a fucking moron

I already did

Rip

Well, you could say this was a punishment for you being a scheming japdoge

@Khat Emperor did you just insult another shib

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

What is a nation? What are it's defining characteristics? Is it important and should it be preserved?

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a nation needs to have a government and semi-definitive culture, it's important it is preserved as it is the natural outcome of when humans come together into a group and deicde to bring order

The national is race and culture

Well the etymology of the word "nation" brings you back to Latin: "natio", in regards to birth, which goes back even further to "nascor", which is a word you could use to mean you are literally born or are so many years old. "Nation" didn't even mean as it does now until recently, as it's original meaning has become so diluted with the crossing of peoples within a single country. The "Iroquois Nation" was several different tribes, but one people. A "nation" is a blood connection.

A nation is a homogeneous country

The words "nation" and "natal" (which is a reference to a woman's womb) have the same etymology for a reason

@Deleted User can anyone become a part of the nation?

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anyone could be part of a nation yeah