Message from @SilverLining

Discord ID: 500801225349136386


2018-10-13 22:42:06 UTC  

"Are they ever at fault?"

2018-10-13 22:42:07 UTC  

"Who let them in?"

2018-10-13 22:42:11 UTC  

"Who passed legisilation?"

2018-10-13 22:42:14 UTC  

I'm describing a history

2018-10-13 22:42:18 UTC  

also pardon the type, *legislation

2018-10-13 22:42:35 UTC  

If a migrant commits a crime, then that individual migrant is at fault.

2018-10-13 22:43:01 UTC  

Anyhow, as I was saying

2018-10-13 22:43:15 UTC  

Societal attitudes most certainly are discriminatory, despite a supposedly egalitarian government

2018-10-13 22:43:21 UTC  

And moreover, the government isn't entirely egalitarian itself

2018-10-13 22:43:34 UTC  

And if a group of migrants is more criminal than the native population? Is it the native population's fault?

2018-10-13 22:43:58 UTC  

That wasn't what those questions meant, by the way

2018-10-13 22:44:02 UTC  

In addition to prohibitive costs preventing many from legally migrating, and not to mention often discrimination

2018-10-13 22:44:15 UTC  

It isn't.

2018-10-13 22:44:18 UTC  

"It sure seems like white people are bad at discrimination when they go out of their way to prevent it"

2018-10-13 22:44:20 UTC  

If I may have a second to answer...

2018-10-13 22:44:22 UTC  

is what I was getting at

2018-10-13 22:44:25 UTC  

sure

2018-10-13 22:44:57 UTC  

I'm not entirely sure how to phrase this...

2018-10-13 22:45:05 UTC  

But more or less, you're treating ethnic groups like monoliths.

2018-10-13 22:45:13 UTC  

Explain

2018-10-13 22:45:16 UTC  

I think it's unwise to generalize birth groups. Birth groups show extreme variation

2018-10-13 22:45:25 UTC  

There is variation, always

2018-10-13 22:45:34 UTC  

You're clustering "a group of migrants" and "a native population" together

2018-10-13 22:45:39 UTC  

Extreme variation.

2018-10-13 22:45:54 UTC  

To a degree where it's not really worth making de jure policies on

2018-10-13 22:46:00 UTC  

You're also neglecting the plethora of other factors

2018-10-13 22:46:01 UTC  

Isn't the purpose of a generalization meant to demonstrate what they are like "in general?"

2018-10-13 22:46:08 UTC  

I've never understood the "NOT ALL!" response

2018-10-13 22:46:32 UTC  

In general, most mass shooters are white Americans, for instance.

2018-10-13 22:46:47 UTC  

Would it be reasonable to create policies off of this information?

2018-10-13 22:46:48 UTC  

No.

2018-10-13 22:46:50 UTC  

Do you know why?

2018-10-13 22:47:00 UTC  

Because said group being studied represents the minority of a minority

2018-10-13 22:47:03 UTC  

"To a degree where it's not really worth making de jure policies on"

I mean, if 52% of Hispanic households are on some form of government assistance, I think we can decide to at the very least limit low skilled migration from Hispanic countries"

2018-10-13 22:47:28 UTC  

What would the purpose of limiting migration be?

2018-10-13 22:47:35 UTC  

It'd only cause others to suffer within their native country.

2018-10-13 22:47:52 UTC  

lol do you think they would care about you suffering?

2018-10-13 22:48:14 UTC  

Yes?

2018-10-13 22:48:25 UTC  

I live in a rather multi-ethnic place in America.

2018-10-13 22:48:43 UTC  

Where do you think I live?

2018-10-13 22:48:47 UTC  

I'll avoid the specific city, but I can most certainly say that yes, minority groups and migrants do indeed care about the native population