liberalism also necessarily breaks apart the nation and nationalism and any common identity, what we see today and call liberalism is largely a result and logical conclusion of the original liberalism.

@名被盜 Even if self-determination is your definition of nationalism (which is not a bad definition, by the way, it's somewhat of an accurate one), your point still fails.

What we know as nationalism originated from the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars, yes, but the concept of self-determination has existed long before that. Do we need to go over examples of this in history? Nobody rebelled against someone else so their people could enjoy self-determination and national sovereignty? Really? The wars Jews fought against the Romans were examples of this?

"Nations has existed yes, but that does not mean nationalism did... "
Funnily enough, I never said this. Unless it's a response to the other guy. I'm sorry but I'm not responding to the majority this, there's nothing of value here. Just silly semantics and you trying to make yourself look like you know more than you actually do.

You're telling us we have a poor understanding of the subject while you argue using a definition that disproves your own point and lends more credibility to your opponent.

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@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Should age caps/limits be imposed on congressmen?

Unless they are in bad mental state i would say they are fine to serve, more experience even

Preferably yes, I think it should cap at 80

Beyond 80 it's just awkward

They're too old to have perfect motor function

Eh, I'm of the opposite opinion. No cap, but the minimum should be raised.

Why raised?

To what age?

25 year olds don't have enough stake in society (usually).

Isn't it 30 for rep

Cap at 70

And 35 for Senate

Minimum should be like 30 or something

I just looked. 25 for rep, 30 for senator

Ah

Up those by 5 each

And you have optimal age

Imo

Age is really not of my concern. You could be 50 for all I care and you should have no right to vote or hold office. If you don't have stake in the collective future of your nation, then you shouldn't be telling others how. You should be required to have children, really.

>you must have children to get your rights

Seems genius

Maybe that would be useful in social democracies but not in America

Individuals shouldn't be able to vote

Votes should be by family unit

The man gets a vote

That's very anti individualist