Message from @Draco

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2018-10-25 02:35:40 UTC  

See ya later

2018-10-25 03:07:32 UTC  

Why are leafs gay

2018-10-25 08:28:19 UTC  

Because leafs ur mom ass

2018-10-25 22:40:18 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Are multi-billion corporations such as Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple a threat to freedom of speech?

2018-10-25 22:40:30 UTC  

no lol

2018-10-25 22:40:33 UTC  

Not inherently

2018-10-25 22:40:40 UTC  

Only if they make themselves a threat

2018-10-25 22:40:49 UTC  

yes

2018-10-25 22:40:59 UTC  

The problem comes when those in power of the companies try to push their own political agenda using their company

2018-10-25 22:41:01 UTC  

Any concentration of power is a threat to liberty

2018-10-25 22:41:07 UTC  

yikes

2018-10-25 22:41:16 UTC  

I would say not directly

2018-10-25 22:41:36 UTC  

some companies such as facebook censor politics but that is because some groups are deadass deemed dangerous

2018-10-25 22:41:38 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-25 22:41:52 UTC  

They have already majorly interfered in politics and censored views

2018-10-25 22:42:09 UTC  

the internet is probably the most relevant and will practically be the only mainstream source of information in the next decade, so how they control information that is shared on the internet definitely has the capacity to threaten freedom of speech and they have demonstrated that they have no issue doing so, even if they have to manipulate the legal system

2018-10-25 22:42:13 UTC  

Yes and no

2018-10-25 22:43:09 UTC  

They have rights to do whatever they want on their services but as soon as they begin to expand outward and control other media then its a problem

2018-10-25 22:44:12 UTC  

Yes, particularly when they have deep connections with politicians and/or other foreign governments (see Google's censorship in China)

2018-10-25 22:47:44 UTC  

Depends on how much you value private property rights

2018-10-25 22:48:29 UTC  

It is not the corporations. It is the people. There are people who want to regulate speech. Corporations are just a tool.

2018-10-25 22:48:55 UTC  

Well corporations have to meet the demands of the market and ensure their profits

2018-10-25 22:49:38 UTC  

It is not profitable for Google to censor Conservatives.

2018-10-25 22:52:13 UTC  

Well, they aren't omniscient they go with what they *think* is the cultural trend, even if conservativism is dominant, especially on YouTube and in politics

2018-10-25 22:52:49 UTC  

Also it probably seems to the board of directors and such that being 'clean' is a safer bet than not

2018-10-25 22:54:22 UTC  

That is simply untrue. In that leaked video, it was clear that they are being driven by ideology. Moreover, have they not seen a single poll? Most Americans said that they hate political correctness but still they implemented live chat censor ship feature

2018-10-25 22:55:43 UTC  

I think it's incorrect to put ideology as a base motivator, if they do have an ideology which coincides with censorship of whatever form, then it must have a material basis which they benefit from

2018-10-25 22:56:00 UTC  

they aren't an inherent threat they just made themselves one due to their ownership of social media

2018-10-25 22:56:46 UTC  

I find it hard to believe that they don't see polls and current affairs. They can easily analyse their own data and see how many people like political correctness or transgenderism

2018-10-25 22:57:33 UTC  

It may not be able political correctness but keeping content that appeals to a lowest common denominator

2018-10-25 22:57:37 UTC  

To the general population, yeah.

2018-10-25 22:57:52 UTC  

But those who know about alternatives, no issue.

2018-10-25 22:58:22 UTC  

Which is against political correctness. Their average consumer does not want them. Only 9% gen z are progressives.

2018-10-25 22:58:23 UTC  

Like we may not see a "no swearing" rule for example, but we would notice the presence of swearing

2018-10-25 22:58:47 UTC  

Or as I remember

2018-10-25 22:58:50 UTC  

Lol

2018-10-25 22:58:54 UTC  

(ಡωಡ) question is
do we ever have freedom of speech?

2018-10-25 22:58:57 UTC  

What is Gen Z by this metric btw?

2018-10-25 22:59:25 UTC  

Well generation after millennials

2018-10-25 22:59:41 UTC  

Oh I think Freedom of Speech in an absolutist sense is impossible and that some speech must be prioritized over others, however I don't think that's conducive to this conversation

2018-10-25 22:59:49 UTC  

all purchases should come with some agreement for these faggots