Message from @هيثم عبدالرحمن

Discord ID: 510245813210054657


2018-11-09 00:09:28 UTC  

No I am the most conservative

2018-11-09 00:09:49 UTC  

But no execution for pedophilia?

2018-11-09 00:09:54 UTC  

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2018-11-09 00:10:06 UTC  

If someone rapes a child yes

2018-11-09 00:10:51 UTC  

>oh but she gave consent

2018-11-09 00:10:55 UTC  

Still execution

2018-11-09 00:11:24 UTC  

Below puberty, no sexual consent should be accepted then

2018-11-09 00:11:32 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-09 00:11:53 UTC  

14+ was the traditional start of marriage age for women here

2018-11-09 00:11:54 UTC  

15 and under

2018-11-09 00:12:15 UTC  

But obviously most would not marry til perhaps 16

2018-11-09 00:12:22 UTC  

For numerous reasons

2018-11-09 00:13:12 UTC  

Puberty does not allow consent

2018-11-09 00:13:30 UTC  

Post-puberty teens don't have the capability to understand

2018-11-09 00:13:39 UTC  

The consequences

2018-11-09 00:14:01 UTC  

The brain area responsible for long term decision making doesn't even develop until 25

2018-11-09 00:14:16 UTC  

Well you can't force marriage

2018-11-09 00:14:29 UTC  

No it does not. But if you have 13 year olds trying to hook up for sex like you have now, I would say they or their parents are responsible too

2018-11-09 00:14:32 UTC  

Teens have sex because it feels good in the moment

2018-11-09 00:14:41 UTC  

Not because they fully understand what they are getting into

2018-11-09 00:14:41 UTC  

Pre marital sex should be illegal

2018-11-09 00:14:49 UTC  
2018-11-09 00:15:16 UTC  

@Draco it's due in part to unfinished brain development, and impulse

2018-11-09 00:16:23 UTC  

I agree. But I won't put whole responsibility on the rapist. That would literally shield parents or pimps using underage girls

2018-11-09 00:16:48 UTC  

Which happens quite a lot

2018-11-09 00:16:53 UTC  

If a pimp or parent is responsible

2018-11-09 00:16:58 UTC  

Death for both

2018-11-09 00:16:58 UTC  

Especially during specific events

2018-11-09 00:18:34 UTC  

Even past 18, you can't absolutely understand the consequences of sex long term

2018-11-09 00:19:09 UTC  

Your prefrontel cortex isn't finished development until your around 25

2018-11-09 00:19:25 UTC  

Which is responsible for long term decision making and reflection

2018-11-09 00:20:04 UTC  

I want a prudent system in which all parties are afraid to cross boundaries.
That works best.
Putting it only on one gives license to other party to act like a scum.

2018-11-09 00:20:51 UTC  

The post-puberty teen should be put into a correctional facility

2018-11-09 00:20:58 UTC  

For a few months maybe

2018-11-09 00:21:14 UTC  

So the teens don't jailbait

2018-11-09 00:21:26 UTC  

Or deathbait in this case

2018-11-09 00:22:06 UTC  

I have seen shitty teens who think they can do it and it is ok because they are teens
They need to be scared too. And if parents fail then law should

2018-11-09 00:22:35 UTC  

All parties responsible should be put to death

2018-11-09 00:22:49 UTC  

The teen should be put into a correctional facility

2018-11-09 10:00:56 UTC  

IMO the death penalty works as a deterrent, the issue of the modern death penalty is that it is not public or broadcast and the punishment is usually benign, you drop, you get shot and its over. However looking at medieval times (which were effective mind you, as the medieval world was not a hell hole that is a myth, it was actualyl relatively civilized and not perpetually violent) we see that they did deter crime to a large degree, of course petty crime persisted however major crime, things today that have relatively mediocre sentences, were punished by physical harm and death. You cheat on a spouse well prepare to either be killed, castrated, lose a limb. Did you rape a child, or someone, prepare to lose your testicles and be eaten by rats, or boiled alive etc.

Did you murder someone, well your gonna get burned and then hung.

This is and was perfect at what it did, it stopped these crimes in a world where there was no mass surveillance, imagine the same authoritative reaction now. The reason in modernity that the death penalty is ineffective is because it is literally too clean. You lay there, get injected, and pass away. However if the lead up to your death would be years of hard labor, gulags or otherwise labor camps, then most crime like this, the prospect of it, would be questionable to even the most unstable.

Also rehab only works for petty crime and with a booming economy. It does not work for more serious crimes. Also mental intability is not a reason for lack of punishment. Mental assylums are cruel in and of themselves. Pedophiles, albeit often mentally ill, cannot be exempt from their crimes and the punishment thereof, simply because they have a warped view of reality. Its like a slap on the wrist, and examples need to be made that will even make the most insane question their course of action.

2018-11-09 13:28:33 UTC  

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