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2018-12-11 22:39:18 UTC  

look up sweden

2018-12-11 22:39:29 UTC  

like, there are always two sides to it

2018-12-11 22:39:56 UTC  

you can try helping the poor in USA at big cities (why those homeless cant fucking move away to cities with better perspectives, looking for a job and shit huh?)

2018-12-11 22:40:22 UTC  

and that could be reasonable, but there is always this one fucking oligarchy sucking-on-their-own-dicks agreement-party

2018-12-11 22:41:00 UTC  

and they make people actually turn towards socialism that is also fucking idiotic

2018-12-11 22:41:21 UTC  

the least of two evils is to grant people a CHANCE to make money, so they dont take nor need it, because they fucking make it

2018-12-11 22:42:23 UTC  

but not a single fucker there will tell such a thing because the capital serves them in the investitions and too many decently paying jobs means that big companies would need to stop fucking around shit like monopolies, price-agreements, market manipulations

2018-12-11 22:44:13 UTC  

greedy companies and greedy bureaucrats turn people against them and make people sympathize with socialism that is bullshit

2018-12-11 22:44:25 UTC  

this is like a vicious normie circle

2018-12-11 22:44:35 UTC  

one trash ruins your fucking day and then the other trash does the same

2018-12-11 22:44:43 UTC  

and you fucking sit there and watch those morons

2018-12-11 22:47:15 UTC  

Thats why I value meritocracy, pay for skills and intelligence.
The worst will happen is that morons will die, you end up better off with society less dumb than dumb yeah?
That's a good thing, isnt it?

2018-12-11 22:53:18 UTC  

These are some wild takes

2018-12-11 22:55:09 UTC  

The real difference between Democratic Socialism and other forms is not whether or not democracy, representative or direct, exists in the formation of a workers' state, because in both cases it does. The difference is that democratic socialists want to establish socialism through democratic means, they want to run for office and implement steady reforms over time to transition from one mode of production to the next

2018-12-11 22:55:10 UTC  

inb4 ancap best society ever

2018-12-11 22:55:27 UTC  

AnCaps are worthless utopians

2018-12-11 22:55:32 UTC  

they are worthless

2018-12-11 22:55:50 UTC  

I just said that politicians today are fucking funny and brain deprived

2018-12-11 22:56:02 UTC  

you cant eradicate the problem by feeding it

2018-12-11 22:56:16 UTC  

Honestly my contention with democratic socialism is how it's ineffective

2018-12-11 22:56:19 UTC  

watching the news it like watching retards

2018-12-11 22:56:22 UTC  

Take Venezuela for example

2018-12-11 22:56:27 UTC  

yeah, retards show

2018-12-11 22:56:41 UTC  

70% of the industry is privately owned and 90% of the work force is I'm the private sector

2018-12-11 22:56:45 UTC  

MUH FUCKING ECONOMY,
WE WILL FUCKING REMOVE STARVATION
HERE, TAKE THE MONEY

2018-12-11 22:56:55 UTC  

>10 years later
>people eat animals from zoo and rotten flesh

2018-12-11 22:57:35 UTC  

My point is they need to use authoritarian means and revolutionary terror to transition

2018-12-11 22:57:38 UTC  

Putin visited Venesuela, no worries, no not a single person will escape the paradise

2018-12-11 22:57:45 UTC  

transition to what

2018-12-11 22:57:48 UTC  

Otherwise it'll stay the capitalist hellhole it is today

2018-12-11 22:57:53 UTC  

To socialism

2018-12-11 22:57:56 UTC  

capitalism hellhole

2018-12-11 22:57:57 UTC  

wat

2018-12-11 22:58:03 UTC  

venezuela was never capitalistic

2018-12-11 22:58:08 UTC  

what the fuck are you talking about

2018-12-11 22:58:14 UTC  

Venezuela by taking the reformist route has been ineffective at transitioning the economy

2018-12-11 22:58:34 UTC  

they had centralized economy with government set production limits and prices

2018-12-11 22:58:34 UTC  

wtf

2018-12-11 22:58:38 UTC  

thats capitalism to you?

2018-12-11 22:58:47 UTC  

They actually don't have that

2018-12-11 22:58:57 UTC  

yeah they had it and fucking lost 40% of their citizens