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2018-12-11 22:53:18 UTC  

These are some wild takes

2018-12-11 22:55:09 UTC  

The real difference between Democratic Socialism and other forms is not whether or not democracy, representative or direct, exists in the formation of a workers' state, because in both cases it does. The difference is that democratic socialists want to establish socialism through democratic means, they want to run for office and implement steady reforms over time to transition from one mode of production to the next

2018-12-11 22:55:10 UTC  

inb4 ancap best society ever

2018-12-11 22:55:27 UTC  

AnCaps are worthless utopians

2018-12-11 22:55:32 UTC  

they are worthless

2018-12-11 22:55:50 UTC  

I just said that politicians today are fucking funny and brain deprived

2018-12-11 22:56:02 UTC  

you cant eradicate the problem by feeding it

2018-12-11 22:56:16 UTC  

Honestly my contention with democratic socialism is how it's ineffective

2018-12-11 22:56:19 UTC  

watching the news it like watching retards

2018-12-11 22:56:22 UTC  

Take Venezuela for example

2018-12-11 22:56:27 UTC  

yeah, retards show

2018-12-11 22:56:41 UTC  

70% of the industry is privately owned and 90% of the work force is I'm the private sector

2018-12-11 22:56:45 UTC  

MUH FUCKING ECONOMY,
WE WILL FUCKING REMOVE STARVATION
HERE, TAKE THE MONEY

2018-12-11 22:56:55 UTC  

>10 years later
>people eat animals from zoo and rotten flesh

2018-12-11 22:57:35 UTC  

My point is they need to use authoritarian means and revolutionary terror to transition

2018-12-11 22:57:38 UTC  

Putin visited Venesuela, no worries, no not a single person will escape the paradise

2018-12-11 22:57:45 UTC  

transition to what

2018-12-11 22:57:48 UTC  

Otherwise it'll stay the capitalist hellhole it is today

2018-12-11 22:57:53 UTC  

To socialism

2018-12-11 22:57:56 UTC  

capitalism hellhole

2018-12-11 22:57:57 UTC  

wat

2018-12-11 22:58:03 UTC  

venezuela was never capitalistic

2018-12-11 22:58:08 UTC  

what the fuck are you talking about

2018-12-11 22:58:14 UTC  

Venezuela by taking the reformist route has been ineffective at transitioning the economy

2018-12-11 22:58:34 UTC  

they had centralized economy with government set production limits and prices

2018-12-11 22:58:34 UTC  

wtf

2018-12-11 22:58:38 UTC  

thats capitalism to you?

2018-12-11 22:58:47 UTC  

They actually don't have that

2018-12-11 22:58:57 UTC  

yeah they had it and fucking lost 40% of their citizens

2018-12-11 22:59:00 UTC  

not saying anything

2018-12-11 22:59:07 UTC  

The private sector and markets are the largest portion of the economy

2018-12-11 22:59:13 UTC  

what economy

2018-12-11 22:59:14 UTC  

its dead

2018-12-11 22:59:20 UTC  

venezuela is a fucking meme

2018-12-11 22:59:23 UTC  

You know what I mean

2018-12-11 22:59:38 UTC  

they had a retarded president who would give away cash on left and right

2018-12-11 22:59:48 UTC  

they also tried to tell people how to run their own business

2018-12-11 23:00:02 UTC  

so people fucked that and couldnt anymore cope with all the bullshit, the economy collapsed

2018-12-11 23:00:27 UTC  

Well no they've had masisve capital flight, constant coup attempts and resistance from the business owners

2018-12-11 23:00:42 UTC  

Something which has prevented any socialist policies from being enacted

2018-12-11 23:00:46 UTC  

resistence, yeah, I wont waste my time now to explain why the *resistance* occured