But communism is still socialism

```But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged after prolonged birth pangs from capitalist society. Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and its cultural development conditioned thereby.
In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!```

-Critique of the Gotha Program by Marx

Lenin later called this first phase of communism socialism

And Stalin referred to the revolutionary worker state as socialism

Which is where the confusion lies as to what the difference between communism and socialism is

Simply put, socialism is at best just the broad over arching political ideas of a class less society with production held in common among all people and communism the fullest realization of it, or specifically the Marxist understanding of socialism

The distinction is not cut and dry

What is universally agreed upon is that communism is socialism

Everyone will agree to that

Currently there are zero socialist countries left except *maybe* the DPRK, but that's not something I'm confident in stating

@Enigmatic★Chromatic North Korea is Third Position, change my mind

Kim Jong Un

more like

Kim Jong Chad

@Enigmatic★Chromatic you are saying communism is like the highest stage of socialism?

Yes

But perhaps you should read Juche because it's clearly Marxist Leninist

In fact Kim Jong Il argued against the national chauvanism of the right wing

You should read siege

It's Marxist Leninist

Very faithful to marxist theory

@Enigmatic★Chromatic

I know what Siege is

James Mason just copied Anarchist adventurism and called it right wing praxis

He even admits to admiring Bakunin and Proudhon in the book

Also time for my epic siege meme

@The Big Oof

You're welcome

@Enigmatic★Chromatic Are you a Maoist or did I misinterpret something you said earlier

I'm a Maoist yes

Or properly, "Marxist-Leninist-Maoist"

Some commies in my discord server want me to invite you

What's your server about? @The Big Oof

Nationalism on the left and right, but everyone is allowed in as long as they aren't an annoying shit

annoying shit being someone who shows up only to insult

left wingers can come in to debate

Alright I'll join

Ew lefties

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