Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic
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I'll show an example
```Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society.```
-On Authority by Engels
It was commonly understood that at best communism is just the full realization of socialism
But communism is still socialism
```But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged after prolonged birth pangs from capitalist society. Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and its cultural development conditioned thereby.
In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!```
-Critique of the Gotha Program by Marx
Lenin later called this first phase of communism socialism
And Stalin referred to the revolutionary worker state as socialism
Which is where the confusion lies as to what the difference between communism and socialism is
Simply put, socialism is at best just the broad over arching political ideas of a class less society with production held in common among all people and communism the fullest realization of it, or specifically the Marxist understanding of socialism
The distinction is not cut and dry
What is universally agreed upon is that communism is socialism
Everyone will agree to that
Currently there are zero socialist countries left except *maybe* the DPRK, but that's not something I'm confident in stating
@Enigmatic★Chromatic North Korea is Third Position, change my mind
Kim Jong Un
more like
Kim Jong Chad
@Enigmatic★Chromatic you are saying communism is like the highest stage of socialism?
But perhaps you should read Juche because it's clearly Marxist Leninist
In fact Kim Jong Il argued against the national chauvanism of the right wing
You should read siege
It's Marxist Leninist
Very faithful to marxist theory
I know what Siege is
James Mason just copied Anarchist adventurism and called it right wing praxis
He even admits to admiring Bakunin and Proudhon in the book
Also time for my epic siege meme
You're welcome
@Enigmatic★Chromatic Are you a Maoist or did I misinterpret something you said earlier
I'm a Maoist yes
Or properly, "Marxist-Leninist-Maoist"
Some commies in my discord server want me to invite you
What's your server about? @The Big Oof
Nationalism on the left and right, but everyone is allowed in as long as they aren't an annoying shit
annoying shit being someone who shows up only to insult