Message from @Avezamal | Lefebvreᴹᵘˢᶦʳ

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2018-12-13 13:50:51 UTC  

gtg

2018-12-13 13:51:05 UTC  

<:Dude:459545653031469068>

2018-12-13 13:51:09 UTC  

This was the teeeitorial peak of the Ottomams

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955238186614794/522772469116043277/300px-OttomanEmpire1590.png

2018-12-13 13:52:37 UTC  

Muslims have always been stagnate and fallen behind🤔

2018-12-13 13:52:57 UTC  

No

2018-12-13 13:53:21 UTC  

They were fantastic when they were unified under the Abbasids

2018-12-13 13:53:30 UTC  

"muslim world"?

2018-12-13 13:53:39 UTC  

Even the Ottomans were ahead in military technology

2018-12-13 13:53:40 UTC  

it's not about muslim or christianity so much as it is europe vs asia

2018-12-13 13:53:55 UTC  

Watch out boys we got a retard over here

2018-12-13 13:54:23 UTC  

Until they started to stagnate due to a long period of peace

2018-12-13 13:54:40 UTC  

asia was originally on par with european development and sometimes even ahead for much of time, until colonial periods where they were effectively oppressed and dismantled for western profits

2018-12-13 13:55:11 UTC  

it's been a very slow recovery period since those times, with only a few economies building back up to compete with the west

2018-12-13 13:55:57 UTC  

>few

2018-12-13 13:56:13 UTC  

can't tell if you're implying less or more there

2018-12-13 13:56:20 UTC  

More

2018-12-13 13:56:24 UTC  

not really

2018-12-13 13:56:34 UTC  

most of asia still can't compete with the west

2018-12-13 13:56:38 UTC  

some countries can

2018-12-13 13:56:41 UTC  

Chad Islam

2018-12-13 13:56:45 UTC  

Don't mix culture with Islam

2018-12-13 13:56:46 UTC  

For example Japan, S.K, Taiwan, China, Thailand, India, Saudi Arabia

2018-12-13 13:56:47 UTC  

<:GWfroggyWeSmart:375369048038572035>

2018-12-13 13:56:57 UTC  

Most of those can compete with the west

2018-12-13 13:57:05 UTC  

Taiwan not so much but they still count

2018-12-13 13:57:09 UTC  

Wait how do I get roles

2018-12-13 13:57:13 UTC  

Nvm

2018-12-13 13:57:16 UTC  

Activity

2018-12-13 13:57:21 UTC  

thailand, along with bangladesh, and taiwan are still manipulated as cheap and exploitative supply chains for western business

2018-12-13 13:57:26 UTC  

that is not "competing"

2018-12-13 13:57:29 UTC  

that is called being used

2018-12-13 13:57:37 UTC  

india, yes

2018-12-13 13:57:38 UTC  

china, yes

2018-12-13 13:57:48 UTC  

japan, in a way - US involvement is questionable

2018-12-13 13:57:51 UTC  

saudi arabia, yes

2018-12-13 13:57:55 UTC  

lmao the east is degenerate

2018-12-13 13:58:09 UTC  

If Islam needs to proper we'd oughta look to the west

2018-12-13 14:02:48 UTC  

Saudi can only compete due to its geographical advantages. Considering they're right next to a oil supply.

2018-12-13 14:03:02 UTC  

that's not the only area saudi competes

2018-12-13 14:03:17 UTC  

they are also one of the global leaders in digital construction right now

2018-12-13 14:03:23 UTC  

which has little to do with oil