Message from @Koninos

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2018-07-26 19:01:00 UTC  

remember the definition of morality

2018-07-26 19:01:05 UTC  

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2018-07-26 19:03:07 UTC  

"Scientists studying animal behaviour believe they have growing evidence that species ranging from mice to primates are governed by moral codes of conduct in the same way as humans.

Until recently, humans were thought to be the only species to experience complex emotions and have a sense of morality.

But Prof Marc Bekoff, an ecologist at University of Colorado, Boulder, believes that morals are "hard-wired" into the brains of all mammals and provide the "social glue" that allow often aggressive and competitive animals to live together in groups.

He has compiled evidence from around the world that shows how different species of animals appear to have an innate sense of fairness, display empathy and help other animals that are in distress."

2018-07-26 19:03:39 UTC  

"Recent neurology work has also revealed that distantly related mammals such as whales and dolphins have the same structures in their brains that are thought to be responsible for empathy in humans."

2018-07-26 19:03:53 UTC  

"Other findings have also suggested that some animals may even be capable of showing empathy with the suffering of other species."

2018-07-26 19:04:09 UTC  

I see

2018-07-26 19:04:18 UTC  

very interesting indeed

2018-07-26 19:05:00 UTC  

Its still controversial as its one of those Science Vs. Religion things

2018-07-26 19:06:06 UTC  

The problem is religion makes humans feel special

2018-07-26 19:06:23 UTC  

especially the thought of your species being the only intellegent lifeform that will get to go to the afterlife

2018-07-26 19:06:46 UTC  

but then when that gets disproved, not only does it mock religion, but it mocks humans aswell so of course there will be denial

2018-07-26 19:11:28 UTC  

at least I don't relate morality as a religious matter

2018-07-26 19:12:28 UTC  

but the capacity of judge if actions are right or wrong according to your principles

2018-07-26 19:13:51 UTC  

which might be founded in religion,of course,but also in sole logic

2018-07-26 19:18:51 UTC  

"why would I attack somebody who haven't done anything against me?"or "why do I have to obey my authorities?" can be answered outside of a religious perspective if you ask me

2018-07-26 19:37:41 UTC  

aaand I killed the chat

2018-07-27 01:54:50 UTC  

>porpaganda

2018-07-27 08:40:10 UTC  
2018-07-27 08:40:17 UTC  

Mhm

2018-07-27 08:40:24 UTC  

What do you define as nationalism?

2018-07-27 08:40:26 UTC  

In your words?

2018-07-27 08:42:09 UTC  

I haven't ever searched about Nationalism in the terms of owning a state. Nationalism in my words is a far right winded ideology. It is born from Fascism, and it is a light form if Fascism is we wanted to make this easy-to- understand.

2018-07-27 08:42:26 UTC  

That's where i disagree

2018-07-27 08:42:40 UTC  

I take nationalism as an ifeology

2018-07-27 08:42:44 UTC  

Ideology*

2018-07-27 08:42:51 UTC  

Nationalism in of itself is not an ideology

2018-07-27 08:43:01 UTC  

It can be politicized and used *in* an ideology

2018-07-27 08:43:15 UTC  

Yes, I agree, but I'm only talking for the nationalist ideology.

2018-07-27 08:43:24 UTC  

Nationalism has existed since the first civilization arose

2018-07-27 08:43:55 UTC  

Not when it comes to ideology

2018-07-27 08:44:04 UTC  

Historians anywhere agree, Nationalism is not Fascism, Fascism used nationalism and abused it to it's extreme.

2018-07-27 08:44:07 UTC  

I am not talking for the nationalism you claim it exists

2018-07-27 08:44:15 UTC  

I am talkig about the Nationalist ideology

2018-07-27 08:44:28 UTC  

Describe this "ideology" then

2018-07-27 08:44:35 UTC  

Didn't I?

2018-07-27 08:44:41 UTC  

"Light Fascism"

2018-07-27 08:44:48 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-27 08:44:49 UTC  

Fascism is broad

2018-07-27 08:44:53 UTC  

Yes.