Message from @campodin

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2018-09-09 07:02:45 UTC  

eh

2018-09-09 07:02:48 UTC  

fine, whatever

2018-09-09 07:02:51 UTC  

right

2018-09-09 07:02:56 UTC  

this isn't an important point anyway

2018-09-09 07:03:08 UTC  

it doesn't matter what the findings of his study were

2018-09-09 07:03:08 UTC  

That's a VERY big difference when it comes to science

2018-09-09 07:03:14 UTC  

so it shouldn't be used as a source

2018-09-09 07:03:18 UTC  

we spent way too much time arguing something minor that can be seen from both points, depending on how you wish to construe it

2018-09-09 07:04:19 UTC  

Tainted or inconclusive <:unequal:473954748517842954> no correlation

2018-09-09 07:04:56 UTC  

if he meddled in their lives it sort of is a bad source

2018-09-09 07:05:19 UTC  

the context in which I read said source presented it in an entirely different way

2018-09-09 07:05:30 UTC  

Anyhow

2018-09-09 07:05:50 UTC  

Well it's easy for agenda pushers on either side to twist the findings around

2018-09-09 07:05:52 UTC  

Beyond that, there's still a myriad of issues with IQ itself

2018-09-09 07:06:38 UTC  

Most of the objections are trivial or political

2018-09-09 07:07:19 UTC  

Many critics argue for even worse things than IQ

2018-09-09 07:07:48 UTC  

IQ is *currently* the best we have

2018-09-09 07:07:56 UTC  

not really

2018-09-09 07:08:03 UTC  

it neglects so many factors and other forms of intelligence

2018-09-09 07:08:36 UTC  

Also, to your credit, from what I read while it did find on average that their incomes were higher, the difference was certainly noticeable but non substantial since they pursued normal occupations @SilverLining

2018-09-09 07:08:44 UTC  

Those other forms of intelligence have lower predictive power than IQ

2018-09-09 07:08:45 UTC  

in general*

2018-09-09 07:08:58 UTC  

that's what I was trying to point out, more or less

2018-09-09 07:09:09 UTC  

that there was a negligible impact

2018-09-09 07:09:34 UTC  

I didn't gather that the impact was negligible

2018-09-09 07:09:43 UTC  

just that it wasn't as great as predicted

2018-09-09 07:09:53 UTC  

two different things

2018-09-09 07:10:04 UTC  

relatively minimal, at any rate

2018-09-09 07:10:16 UTC  

which in coordination with the vast number of surpassing outliers

2018-09-09 07:10:17 UTC  

To your arbitrary standard

2018-09-09 07:10:35 UTC  

That wasn't what I gathered, but let's move on

2018-09-09 07:10:37 UTC  

means that one shouldn't base any policies upon IQ

2018-09-09 07:10:51 UTC  

anyhow

2018-09-09 07:10:53 UTC  

beyond the test

2018-09-09 07:11:01 UTC  

and I'm sure you probably read this when reading the study...

2018-09-09 07:11:21 UTC  

IQ correlates heavily to nutrition and education...

2018-09-09 07:11:27 UTC  

or just socioeconomic background in general

2018-09-09 07:13:56 UTC  

Those things have truth to them, but the extent to which they impact it are pretty debatable

2018-09-09 07:14:37 UTC  

to an incredibly large extent

2018-09-09 07:14:59 UTC  

why am I arguing this at 2 am

2018-09-09 07:15:03 UTC  

I'm gonna go to sleep