Message from @SilverLining
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as he desperately wanted this study to prove something
What is being argued is not that this study means anything
I already said it would be dumb on my part to cite a study I've never even looked in to
The point is that it does not reach the conclusions you claimed it did
" terman's writings, in which he admitted there wasn't a strong correlation, were still biased"
He didn't say that, I just read the quote you sent me
Why would he reference his study anyway if he thought it disproved himself?
"we have seen that intellect and achievement"
From what I understand he was proud of it
how does that not admit that there isn't a strong correlation?
From everything I just saw looking it up the study doesn't contradict the idea that IQ is correlated to success.
At most it is inconclusive
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eh
fine, whatever
right
this isn't an important point anyway
it doesn't matter what the findings of his study were
That's a VERY big difference when it comes to science
so it shouldn't be used as a source
we spent way too much time arguing something minor that can be seen from both points, depending on how you wish to construe it
Tainted or inconclusive <:unequal:473954748517842954> no correlation
if he meddled in their lives it sort of is a bad source
the context in which I read said source presented it in an entirely different way
Anyhow
Well it's easy for agenda pushers on either side to twist the findings around
Beyond that, there's still a myriad of issues with IQ itself
Most of the objections are trivial or political
Many critics argue for even worse things than IQ
IQ is *currently* the best we have
not really
it neglects so many factors and other forms of intelligence
Also, to your credit, from what I read while it did find on average that their incomes were higher, the difference was certainly noticeable but non substantial since they pursued normal occupations @SilverLining
Those other forms of intelligence have lower predictive power than IQ
in general*
that's what I was trying to point out, more or less
that there was a negligible impact
I didn't gather that the impact was negligible
just that it wasn't as great as predicted
two different things
relatively minimal, at any rate