But I understand what you are saying.

And I'm not making it up to discredit.

Just to ask in what case would it not be the woman's fault for causing the death of her child?

By malicious intent or no.

Like could you charge a woman for drinking spruce tea and she has a miscarriage?

If it was determined she did it purposefully to kill the child, then she should be charged with murder

And if it's just recklessness without intent?

Not malicious, but just ignorant, or uninformed?

I know it's ridiculous

But humor me.

If she were, like, bungee jumping?

And knew she was pregnant.

How did all of you ignore my point about fetus rights haha

Sure, I was thinking more like, she wore high heels, and then walked down some cobble stairs

I was saying liberals see no problem with denying a fetus it's so called sacred human rights

I got it too

^ that is true

Which calls the whole idea of human rights into question

^

If we can ignore them sometimes when we feel like it then they don't seem all that important

Politics is show business for ugly people.

That's cause they believe they are lizards or fish or some such nonsense

At least some do

Well they make exceptions

Yes.

Fetuses are an exception to the rule. Why? Who knows.

So much for ALL humans

Because there was regret associated with bearing a bastard child.

Fetuses arent an exception to the rule, rather they are the starting base to question and shift and make the idea of lide and the concept itself potentially fluid. Or rather the concept of who deserves life

If rights are fluid then they can be fluid in other ways

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 btw I don't know anything about high heels on cobblestone stairs. So I see no reason why we should assume any person would

For example perhaps society may decide to revoke the citizenship of new immigrants who gained it over the last 10 years because these administrations were deemed ilegitimate

But that's a violation of their rights...but rights are a dubious fluid conceot

So you know what high heels are?

And you know what cobble is.

I mean in my opinion tha tis valid

immigrants inherit the granted rights of their forefathers

Put the two together and you have?

I mena a lot depends on intent

A reckless behavior that is dangerous.

However, I am not worried about this hypothetical because we know the justice system always favors women and is extra lenient on them