Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿

Discord ID: 489524418335473705


2018-09-12 19:48:47 UTC  

They may be useful for social cohesion within a group of people

2018-09-12 19:48:49 UTC  

Or not

2018-09-12 19:49:47 UTC  

true, however groups tend to drive towards social structures that promote laws that promote group cohesion, and specifically allow purging of members in one way or another, to maintain cohesion

2018-09-12 19:49:54 UTC  

usually banishment

2018-09-12 19:51:32 UTC  

If a right serves a purpose we want then it is a useful tool. If it does not then it's a hindrance. That's what everyone thinks deep down

2018-09-12 19:52:01 UTC  

And yes they can be changed obviously they're changing all the time

2018-09-12 19:52:07 UTC  

I think we should bring back exile

2018-09-12 19:52:23 UTC  

Sure

2018-09-12 19:52:32 UTC  

Become a vagrant, and a vagabond.

2018-09-12 19:52:41 UTC  

Frowned upon everywhere you go.

2018-09-12 19:53:23 UTC  

I guess that person could just claim refugee status though.

2018-09-12 19:53:52 UTC  

Well if we're accepting refugees from around the world it will be hard to exile any

2018-09-12 19:54:02 UTC  

They'll just come back as refugees

2018-09-12 19:54:22 UTC  

Well, you can't go to a country you have be exiled from...

2018-09-12 19:54:27 UTC  

That's the point of exile.

2018-09-12 19:54:37 UTC  

Plus these vagrants may end up becoming bandits

2018-09-12 19:54:38 UTC  

They'll go to the next white country

2018-09-12 19:54:38 UTC  

By way of death.

2018-09-12 19:55:00 UTC  

An exile from the US will go to Canada and an exile from Canada will go to Europe

2018-09-12 19:55:05 UTC  

And of that country accepts them Despite our objections.

2018-09-12 19:55:16 UTC  

Then you don't allow refugees from that country.

2018-09-12 19:55:45 UTC  

And exile need not last forever.

2018-09-12 19:55:59 UTC  

It's just within that frame can that person honour the law.

2018-09-12 19:56:01 UTC  

All I'm saying is first we have to change the way we operate as a society and our obsession with letting everyone in/tolerance

2018-09-12 19:56:23 UTC  

Tolerance should not be confused with willful ignorance.

2018-09-12 19:56:37 UTC  

We should end the culture of willful ignorance.

2018-09-12 19:56:46 UTC  

We should end both

2018-09-12 19:56:54 UTC  

Tolerance is no issue.

2018-09-12 19:57:22 UTC  

As it isn't allowing anything, it's allowing things within a tolerable measure.

2018-09-12 19:57:43 UTC  

E.g. a foreigner who respects the laws and traditions of a country.

2018-09-12 19:58:06 UTC  

You and I differ

2018-09-12 19:58:24 UTC  

Why should we be interested in any foreigners at all?

2018-09-12 19:58:47 UTC  

Well, say your population starts dying of a disease.

2018-09-12 19:59:03 UTC  

Where will your labour pool come from?

2018-09-12 19:59:09 UTC  

Or your population starts being replaced by foerigners...oh wait

2018-09-12 19:59:13 UTC  

How will you improve the conditions in the interim?

2018-09-12 19:59:32 UTC  

Or will you just tell everyone to suffer it out and wait?

2018-09-12 20:00:03 UTC  

Like here in Canada we are running out of medicine.

2018-09-12 20:00:16 UTC  

Well, even if we replace the dying native population with a new one the dying population still dies

2018-09-12 20:00:25 UTC  

And our labour force is basically dead.

2018-09-12 20:00:29 UTC  

So the dying population isn't improved any