Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic

Discord ID: 508416836447109120


2018-11-03 23:04:16 UTC  

Do you think a particular group of people can be genetically predisposed to aggression?

2018-11-03 23:04:20 UTC  

still a better train of thought than that of a liberal's

2018-11-03 23:05:06 UTC  

Well primarily people say, "aha see a large amount of crime exists in these communities, this confirms my suspicions." I think this is unquestionably a post-hoc rationalization

2018-11-03 23:05:22 UTC  

Most people would say it's purely environmental, 100%

2018-11-03 23:05:31 UTC  

You are comparing what normal people say to academic studies

2018-11-03 23:05:35 UTC  

No I don't think they are genetically predisposed to agression any more than any other race

2018-11-03 23:05:50 UTC  

but you just said some differences exist

2018-11-03 23:05:51 UTC  

Do you think tendency to be aggressive can be acquired genetically?

2018-11-03 23:06:02 UTC  

Can small differences not be exacerbated with time?

2018-11-03 23:06:04 UTC  

and distance?

2018-11-03 23:06:10 UTC  

I think it's largely learned

2018-11-03 23:06:14 UTC  

Wouldnt even say, something obvious, access to technology

2018-11-03 23:06:18 UTC  

not affect the gene pool

2018-11-03 23:06:20 UTC  

But some of it is genetic?

2018-11-03 23:06:25 UTC  

like if one population lives with less access to it

2018-11-03 23:06:26 UTC  

If there is a genetic factor, it's secondary to the social factor

2018-11-03 23:06:36 UTC  

why can't the social factor affect the genetic factor

2018-11-03 23:06:46 UTC  

It could

2018-11-03 23:06:46 UTC  

There is no such thing as secondary there. Genes express themselves in an environment

2018-11-03 23:06:54 UTC  

Sure

2018-11-03 23:06:59 UTC  

I agree with that

2018-11-03 23:07:18 UTC  

So, what is the problem then? It is just a matter of degree.

2018-11-03 23:07:22 UTC  

Not of principle

2018-11-03 23:07:38 UTC  

Well that's kind of the thing

2018-11-03 23:07:45 UTC  

There’s a stereotype saying black people commit more crimes

2018-11-03 23:07:53 UTC  

which doesn’t seem true

2018-11-03 23:08:33 UTC  

They commit more crimes, but I disagree that the reason why is because they are "just like that"

2018-11-03 23:08:34 UTC  

Black people commit more crimes per capita, that is a fact.

2018-11-03 23:09:22 UTC  

I think that the criminality is manifested by the environmental conditions of the communities, for example poverty is a huge factor

2018-11-03 23:09:35 UTC  

And if you control for them, they still commit more crime

2018-11-03 23:09:46 UTC  

You can perform the analysis yourself

2018-11-03 23:11:01 UTC  

You cannot control for that sort of thing

2018-11-03 23:11:24 UTC  

You can control for poverty

2018-11-03 23:11:35 UTC  

By examining all samples having equal household income

2018-11-03 23:12:00 UTC  

You compare a white man with x salary and a black man with x salary

2018-11-03 23:12:21 UTC  

Most of these behaviors are learned in childhood however

2018-11-03 23:12:40 UTC  

Since that's when neural plasticity is most plastic

2018-11-03 23:13:00 UTC  

The chaos of life is too much to control for in these kinds of tests

2018-11-03 23:13:08 UTC  

You can control for that too. Do you think that if a black family which is rich is living in affluent neighborhood for several generations, there would be no difference to whites

2018-11-03 23:15:17 UTC  

Of course you cannot control for all factors. But if you will set such a high criteria, then we would have to throw all statistical studies

2018-11-03 23:25:14 UTC  

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