Message from @The Big Oof
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Ok, so why do you think "race realism" is untrue. Lets do this in a dialectical way.
Because largely it's post-hawk conclusions
What do you mean by post-hoc?
I do not think black people for example are any more inclined to commit crime naturally than white people for example. I do not think they are the same, obviously differences exist, but we have much reason to think it's environmental
Sorry post hoc
"I do not think they are the same, obviously differences exist, but we have much reason to think it's environmental"
Do you think a particular group of people can be genetically predisposed to aggression?
still a better train of thought than that of a liberal's
Well primarily people say, "aha see a large amount of crime exists in these communities, this confirms my suspicions." I think this is unquestionably a post-hoc rationalization
Most people would say it's purely environmental, 100%
You are comparing what normal people say to academic studies
No I don't think they are genetically predisposed to agression any more than any other race
but you just said some differences exist
Do you think tendency to be aggressive can be acquired genetically?
Can small differences not be exacerbated with time?
and distance?
I think it's largely learned
Wouldnt even say, something obvious, access to technology
not affect the gene pool
But some of it is genetic?
If there is a genetic factor, it's secondary to the social factor
why can't the social factor affect the genetic factor
It could
There is no such thing as secondary there. Genes express themselves in an environment
Sure
I agree with that
So, what is the problem then? It is just a matter of degree.
Not of principle
Well that's kind of the thing
There’s a stereotype saying black people commit more crimes
which doesn’t seem true
They commit more crimes, but I disagree that the reason why is because they are "just like that"
Black people commit more crimes per capita, that is a fact.
I think that the criminality is manifested by the environmental conditions of the communities, for example poverty is a huge factor
And if you control for them, they still commit more crime
You can perform the analysis yourself
You cannot control for that sort of thing
You can control for poverty
By examining all samples having equal household income
You compare a white man with x salary and a black man with x salary