Message from @Draco

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2018-11-03 22:58:00 UTC  

Karl Marx?

2018-11-03 22:58:05 UTC  

Who do you think is the best thinker and proponent of Materialism?

2018-11-03 22:58:13 UTC  

It surely isn't Karl Marx

2018-11-03 22:58:29 UTC  

Wish I knew what you guys were talking about

2018-11-03 22:58:44 UTC  

Social Constructivism and Essentialism

2018-11-03 22:59:43 UTC  

I'm not a materialist nor constructivist in the sense much of the rest of these are

2018-11-03 22:59:49 UTC  

I'm a dialectical materialist

2018-11-03 23:00:13 UTC  

I start from a basis of dialectical materialism and work from there

2018-11-03 23:00:42 UTC  

Yeah never learned that in school lol

2018-11-03 23:00:47 UTC  

have no idea what that is

2018-11-03 23:01:30 UTC  

Ok, so why do you think "race realism" is untrue. Lets do this in a dialectical way.

2018-11-03 23:01:55 UTC  

Because largely it's post-hawk conclusions

2018-11-03 23:02:56 UTC  

What do you mean by post-hoc?

2018-11-03 23:03:12 UTC  

I do not think black people for example are any more inclined to commit crime naturally than white people for example. I do not think they are the same, obviously differences exist, but we have much reason to think it's environmental

2018-11-03 23:03:40 UTC  

Sorry post hoc

2018-11-03 23:03:51 UTC  

"I do not think they are the same, obviously differences exist, but we have much reason to think it's environmental"

2018-11-03 23:04:16 UTC  

Do you think a particular group of people can be genetically predisposed to aggression?

2018-11-03 23:04:20 UTC  

still a better train of thought than that of a liberal's

2018-11-03 23:05:06 UTC  

Well primarily people say, "aha see a large amount of crime exists in these communities, this confirms my suspicions." I think this is unquestionably a post-hoc rationalization

2018-11-03 23:05:22 UTC  

Most people would say it's purely environmental, 100%

2018-11-03 23:05:31 UTC  

You are comparing what normal people say to academic studies

2018-11-03 23:05:35 UTC  

No I don't think they are genetically predisposed to agression any more than any other race

2018-11-03 23:05:50 UTC  

but you just said some differences exist

2018-11-03 23:05:51 UTC  

Do you think tendency to be aggressive can be acquired genetically?

2018-11-03 23:06:02 UTC  

Can small differences not be exacerbated with time?

2018-11-03 23:06:04 UTC  

and distance?

2018-11-03 23:06:10 UTC  

I think it's largely learned

2018-11-03 23:06:14 UTC  

Wouldnt even say, something obvious, access to technology

2018-11-03 23:06:18 UTC  

not affect the gene pool

2018-11-03 23:06:20 UTC  

But some of it is genetic?

2018-11-03 23:06:25 UTC  

like if one population lives with less access to it

2018-11-03 23:06:26 UTC  

If there is a genetic factor, it's secondary to the social factor

2018-11-03 23:06:36 UTC  

why can't the social factor affect the genetic factor

2018-11-03 23:06:46 UTC  

It could

2018-11-03 23:06:46 UTC  

There is no such thing as secondary there. Genes express themselves in an environment

2018-11-03 23:06:54 UTC  

Sure

2018-11-03 23:06:59 UTC  

I agree with that

2018-11-03 23:07:18 UTC  

So, what is the problem then? It is just a matter of degree.

2018-11-03 23:07:22 UTC  

Not of principle

2018-11-03 23:07:38 UTC  

Well that's kind of the thing

2018-11-03 23:07:45 UTC  

There’s a stereotype saying black people commit more crimes