Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic

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2018-11-05 19:47:06 UTC  

*In the great majority of cases today, at least in the possessing classes, the husband is obliged to earn a living and support his family, and that in itself gives him a position of supremacy, without any need for special legal titles and privileges. Within the family he is the bourgeois and the wife represents the proletariat. In the industrial world, the specific character of the economic oppression burdening the proletariat is visible in all its sharpness only when all special legal privileges of the capitalist class have been abolished and complete legal equality of both classes established. The democratic republic does not do away with the opposition of the two classes; on the contrary, it provides the clear field on which the fight can be fought out. *

2018-11-05 19:47:49 UTC  

Oh! So he says that the husband is the bourgeois. Thanks.

2018-11-05 19:48:28 UTC  

You go from wrongly positing Marxist class system to leaving out all context to the comparison

2018-11-05 19:48:31 UTC  

Later loser

2018-11-05 19:48:49 UTC  

Bye Commie. Lie to someone else:)

2018-11-05 19:50:17 UTC  

@Enigmatic★Chromatic you can disregard Draco as someone to delineate anything related to Marx to

2018-11-05 19:50:55 UTC  

Yes, Marxist circle jerk works very well. Btw, I thought you ran away to your daddy Marx.

2018-11-05 22:00:12 UTC  

@Draco here's a direct quote from Critique of the Gotha Program about what communism would look like: ```But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance, in the present case, are regarded only as workers and nothing more is seen in them, everything else being ignored. Further, one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.```

2018-11-05 22:00:27 UTC  

He literally says in communism some people will be richer than others

2018-11-05 22:00:48 UTC  

It's *really* disengenuous to tell a Marxist what Marx thought

2018-11-05 22:01:34 UTC  

```I am a jew and jews are the chosen people all others are beneath us
-Karl Marx```

2018-11-05 22:02:05 UTC  

Actually have you read "On the Jewish Question"?

2018-11-05 22:02:06 UTC  

its a meme btw don't mind me had to join in

2018-11-05 22:02:12 UTC  

Oh

2018-11-05 22:02:25 UTC  

I was gonna say he *really* didn't like the Jewish culture

2018-11-05 22:02:49 UTC  

yeah i mean the talmud literaly says jews are the chosen people and non believers are animals

2018-11-05 22:03:12 UTC  

really dumb religion tbh

2018-11-05 22:04:33 UTC  

I'm a proponent of Marxism-Leninism Scientific Atheism

2018-11-05 22:04:44 UTC  

Aka "State atheism"

2018-11-05 22:06:27 UTC  

Being religious is not banned, but public displays of religion, religous recruitent into your religion, teaching religion in school are all banned and instead it is taught to kids how religion game into existence to serve material needs and such

2018-11-05 22:07:05 UTC  

Sounds like hell

2018-11-05 22:08:43 UTC  

ravioli ravioli kill all the jews

2018-11-05 22:08:51 UTC  

Oh yeah and you have to be atheist to be in the party

2018-11-05 22:09:01 UTC  

atheists kill jews

2018-11-05 22:09:07 UTC  

so, okay

2018-11-05 22:09:13 UTC  

Actually even China still maintains that position despite reverting, in my opinion, fully to Capitalism

2018-11-05 22:09:22 UTC  

china is capitalist

2018-11-05 22:09:25 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-05 22:09:26 UTC  

no need to call it communist

2018-11-05 22:09:41 UTC  

They like to pretend the goal is still communism

2018-11-05 22:09:41 UTC  

but eh tbh its rather leashed capitalism

2018-11-05 22:10:25 UTC  

It's basically what corporatism would have actually looked like of any if the fascist countries actually meant it when hey said they'd do that

2018-11-05 22:10:28 UTC  

and china is facing a demographic crisis their population is declining

2018-11-05 22:10:52 UTC  

far below the 2.1 needed to replace the population

2018-11-05 22:10:54 UTC  

It's declining on purpose

2018-11-05 22:11:00 UTC  

yeah, no

2018-11-05 22:11:07 UTC  

they reverted the 1 child policy

2018-11-05 22:11:17 UTC  

and are giving checks for 2 children now

2018-11-05 22:11:49 UTC  

Yeah, I know

2018-11-05 22:11:58 UTC  

But they did intend to lower the population