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But I would say that there are less and more broad ideas
anyway, the whole point was that the ships are a broad idea, as much as humans are to me
and you might call them the same but they never are
searching for physical attributes of an object makes perfect sense to me
Have to leave now. Nice talking to you
Yeah, I gotta go too. Cya
Hiroshima and Nagasaki had highest Christian numbers. https://www.quora.com/Did-the-atomic-bomb-dropped-on-Nagasaki-wipe-out-a-significant-portion-of-Japanese-Christians
I wouldn't really call the Theseus problem a "paradox"
it all depends on what the individual considers to be "same"
or "original"
things like these are
human concepts / ideas
i've seen a variant of this problem before, if you slowly replace your entire body with cybernetic parts, one by one, is that still you
etc
identity is a concept made by people to understand things better
for me i think the ship is the same, even when it was still sailing it most likely had to be repaired at least once or twice, but its still the same ship
I would say it depends on the rate of change
Much like our bodies, the ship changes over time
Our bodies grow and change shape, every 7 years every single atom in your body has been replaces, yet you retain the memories of your past self. The real question lies when you consider consciousness, are you physically the same person? No, not at all. Are your thoughts the same? Most likely not. Has your Identity changed? Not according to the state and your family. This is where I think the problem comes from, It is the perception from others that solidifies you as you, not yourself.
i rmb having seen this variant:
the teleporter machine
In the near future some clever people build a machine that teleports you from one place to another, you can travel great distances. It works by scanning your body, destroying it and reconstructing it piece by piece elsewhere.
is that still you?
you guys are starting to hit what makes you you and the concept and nature of consciousness itself. I get the sense that you guys need to establish consciousness first and then move on to identity.
Generally form my view, psychologically we have both individual identity and a social identity, each being equally important and equally important to our purpose. identity forms from the most primordial, it must be based upon something and that begins the formation of "you". However you as a concept existed before however the nature of you is based on these in order to root the concept of you in the context of your current existence.
Generally if you were broken down molecule by molecule and rebuilt, you and everything you were is continued and the concept of you remains the same. The barriers remain the same. However these will be changed if we change the nature of the physical medium that is "you". In essence changing the barriers and what encapsulates you. But what if that too was not true and instead meant that your physical form changed however the internal you, particularly that which concept of you started, is the immutable you. rather only the social you, the you that others percieve changes and as such social identity changes rather than individual immutable identity?
This is a flow of ideas so i may have gone over things you guys already have or might simply not make sense.
looks like there are fairly common (and stable through time) phenotype, and races are real
If your in Canada consider coming out to protest the UN Compact on migration in Ottawa this Satuday
Antifa is going to be there so we need people to show up
Generally how People look d9es not repeat So exactly which is only common for twins. The chances are beyond astronomical. Alternatively were looking at inbreeding of some sorts
Fascism is a form of socalism
change my mind
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Define socialism
this is a necessary first step
Socialism is often conflated with heavy market regulation
Where the means of production are collectively owned by the state or workers
That's accurate
But it's not as black and white as that
extremely heavy economic intervention by the state
Market intervention is not socialism
Not market intervention