Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

Discord ID: 519968256552075272


2018-12-05 20:05:00 UTC  

Socialism is when the government *owns* the businesses, regulating the privately owned businesses is corporatism or state capitalism.

2018-12-05 20:05:05 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ r u fucking retarded I said I have class

2018-12-05 20:05:29 UTC  

@Fingol Corporationism not state capitalism

2018-12-05 20:05:38 UTC  

But yeah it's not always the case for socialism like that

2018-12-05 20:05:48 UTC  

Venezeula is socialist, I don't think the state or workers own the MoP

2018-12-05 20:05:51 UTC  

but it's over regulated

2018-12-05 20:06:00 UTC  

price controls, over regulation etc

2018-12-05 20:06:33 UTC  

Socialism is an economic system based on the collective ownership of the means of production, and Venezuela is not socialist as opposed to popular belief.

2018-12-05 20:06:40 UTC  

The USSR was socialist

2018-12-05 20:06:48 UTC  

Cuba is socialist

2018-12-05 20:06:59 UTC  

North Korea is socialist

2018-12-05 20:07:32 UTC  

@Fingol Venezeula is socialist

2018-12-05 20:07:38 UTC  

they're literally repressed on the economic freedom

2018-12-05 20:07:39 UTC  

index

2018-12-05 20:07:51 UTC  

Let me show you freer/capitalist countries

2018-12-05 20:07:54 UTC  

That doesn't make socialism per se

2018-12-05 20:07:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/519968193641709576/Screen_Shot_2018-12-05_at_18.25.01.png

2018-12-05 20:07:59 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-05 20:08:06 UTC  

These are socialist countries

2018-12-05 20:08:10 UTC  

Venezuela is a very shitty country

2018-12-05 20:08:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/519968256552075265/Screen_Shot_2018-12-05_at_18.24.41.png

2018-12-05 20:08:13 UTC  

It's socialist

2018-12-05 20:08:14 UTC  

But it isn't socialist

2018-12-05 20:08:16 UTC  

yes it is

2018-12-05 20:08:22 UTC  

it's business freedom is lower than repressed

2018-12-05 20:08:26 UTC  

Define socialism

2018-12-05 20:08:27 UTC  

almost all of it's economic freedom indicators are the same

2018-12-05 20:08:37 UTC  

Where the means of production are collectively owned by the state or workers

2018-12-05 20:08:41 UTC  

However defining characteristics

2018-12-05 20:08:48 UTC  

can include strong state intervention

2018-12-05 20:08:53 UTC  

which is present in the countries listed above

2018-12-05 20:09:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/519968578636742656/IMG_20181205_220918.jpg

2018-12-05 20:09:41 UTC  

Yes I know

2018-12-05 20:09:47 UTC  

theres defining characteristics

2018-12-05 20:09:52 UTC  

such as strong state intervention

2018-12-05 20:10:04 UTC  

to the point the "private" companies in Venezuela are state owned

2018-12-05 20:10:13 UTC  

Venezuela has pridominantly private ownership, therefore it is not socialist

2018-12-05 20:10:23 UTC  

Look what I said

2018-12-05 20:10:27 UTC  

it's over state controlled

2018-12-05 20:10:33 UTC  

that is SOCIALIST

2018-12-05 20:10:40 UTC  

any economy on the repressed section is socialist