^And if that occasion leads to death, it is considered a *murder*.

@4042 In the case of mortality, what would stop a woman from going into a back alley with a coathanger and having some dude do it.

Maybe, I'll live if this guy does it with a hanger, but I have no chance if I carry the baby.

@Da_Fish Normalization is not the same as it being illegal

In addition, normalization makes it more common

No one is saying abortion is a happy go lucky thing, it isn't. We are simply stating that in certain circumstances, it is in the best interests for everyone.

"Everyone" being? A small minority of uninformed women who are at the risk of death?

At the cost of normalization of murder, the benefits are not being outweighed

Let's say you're a woman.

You're pregnant.

You're about to die.

They offer you to abort your fetus.

What do you do? Straight fucking DIE, or abort it?

**ABORT**

You confuse individual desicion making with societal repercussions

No darling, this is common sense.

Normalizing abortion is worse

We are talking about the legality of abortion, not its normalization.

Same thing

Even though its normalization is not that bad in certain circumstances (pex death).

Certainly bad in this one

Letting someone who is about to fucking die make the choice <:unequal:473954748517842954> Normalization

Definitely not, @4042

Fetus or Woman?

Woman, 100%

Normalization of degeneracy has always led to it's expansion. Look at homosexuals, that mess evolved into the introduction of transexuality into school classrooms. I'm not sure what makes you so eager to see where something like abortion may lead us.

"I wonder where the next step might take us"

People want to be different and wallow in the weirdness of the degenerate community like some sort of drug addict.

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Welcome to the Kali Yuga

by the emperor

life in the kali yuga sure is something

"Degeneracy"

Stop using this word, it's getting annoying.

sounds like something a degenerate would say

Can't argue with that^

@Koninos Happy Hanukkah

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Everybody is using it, and it is getting more common than a greeting.

No matter what you call them you know who THEY are.