I am saying they should not have that freedom

And have the rights that citizens have.

you think that noncitizens should be able to vote?

do you believe this for all nations , or just the US?

I think that people who immigrate here should be able to *become* citizens.

Depending on various factors of course, like where they're from.

no one is arguing that the opportunity goes away

But I don't think skin color should be considered. Moreso culture.

you're being asking if someone in the process of immigration

should be able to vote

nah they aren't a citizen yet

so no

what did you think you were being asked earlier

ok, you guys continue larping

>*"Anything beyond right of me is larping"*

i guess i misunderstood the point as people coming here at all

not sure

ethnostates aren't right of me

>inb4 horseshoe

ethnostates are interesting in regards to the spectrum

i view them as more authoritarian than anything

horseshoe might be a better fit, but all these niche internet stances don't fit well on the left-right spectrum

I assume you mean like Fascism and Nat Soc?

yeah

lmao i can't

Well, depending on who you ask, they aren't even on that spectrum

I'm sure you've come across that, maybe

I don't read much into wingnut shit

lol

I don't even care for ethnostates

they don't bother me

nor am I excited about them

I don't care if the old world has them

yeah when ethostates come into play i generally find them as an extension of fascism or NatSoc Dia

unless you guys want to block out 3/4s of europe

you're not abiding by the founders' vision

ethnostates in the new world are pure larps

I agree there is a ridiculous amount of larping in the Nat Soc/Fascism sphere, and I agree some of the things you're calling larping is larping, i.e.: *"Let's carve up America into ideal states"*. What I'm saying is that ethnostates are born naturally regardless of intent.

that may be true

but so far

the mixed new world