will you consider that a win or a loss?

So, then what do you say about genetic tests being able to tell Ashkenazim apart from Europeans?

the simple answer is that people don't identify by genetic tests

Well, yeah, that goes back to your wondering about Tejanos

I've asked my friends about this

and this is how it goes each time

you'll ask if they're white

you'll get an instant yes

then you'll bering up genetics

and they'll start thinking about it

there is a genetic component to race

and a social one

and an interaction variables

the interaction variable is how society sees you

and they base it off phenotype, which is dictated by genetics

you can cite all the race science in the world

but choosing where to draw the line between caucasian whites and caucasian nonwhites is social

genetics don't abide by european borders , and neither does phenotype

I identify by what people see me as

I'm ultimately indifferent to the broader category

Yeah, I can agree with what you're saying to some degree

but because everyone has always seen me as white

I see myself as white

Are you religiously Jewish as well?

i'm secular

So, I suppose marrying a non-Jew is not out of the question then for you

or is it

sure, but I'd prefer a jew

if you were to retrain society to identify jews as nonwhite, it would have funny consequences

such as

other whites who could pass as jews would then stop being seen as white

because they now resemble a nonwhite group

and

jews could get affirmative action

which would be hilarious

I won't complain, but I doubt you'd want that

At the point that Jews are considered non-white, I doubt there'd be much favor for them

you're assuming that once society bends to one of your ideas about jews, they'd bend to the rest

fair

now tell me, what do you want to see happen?

with Jews specifically?