but choosing where to draw the line between caucasian whites and caucasian nonwhites is social

genetics don't abide by european borders , and neither does phenotype

I identify by what people see me as

I'm ultimately indifferent to the broader category

Yeah, I can agree with what you're saying to some degree

but because everyone has always seen me as white

I see myself as white

Are you religiously Jewish as well?

i'm secular

So, I suppose marrying a non-Jew is not out of the question then for you

or is it

sure, but I'd prefer a jew

if you were to retrain society to identify jews as nonwhite, it would have funny consequences

such as

other whites who could pass as jews would then stop being seen as white

because they now resemble a nonwhite group

and

jews could get affirmative action

which would be hilarious

I won't complain, but I doubt you'd want that

At the point that Jews are considered non-white, I doubt there'd be much favor for them

you're assuming that once society bends to one of your ideas about jews, they'd bend to the rest

fair

now tell me, what do you want to see happen?

with Jews specifically?

Jews and others

I ranted, now it's your turn

lol

I was interested to pick your brain, moreso

ok, then I'll ask specific questions

are you anti-semitic?

That's not an unfair assessment

not as antisemitic as some, sure, but most anyone would consider me so

do you buy kevin mcdonad's shit that I'm born evil?

I have yet to read MacDonald. I would not say you're intrinsically evil, though.

what makes jews evil then?

The mistake of some people in my realm of views is to apply the characterizations of "international Jews" to average Jews you may find in your neighborhood. It's undeniable that there are Jews who are in the upper-echelon of society. It's undeniable that Jews, being only 2% of the American population, are grossly overrepresented in the number of millionaires, billionaires, or general positions of influence (Hollywood, etc.). Applying what anyone with power does to those without power is dumb.

Going back to what started all of this (that whole thing with the Founding Fathers), John Jay's quote is very good, and quite Fascist in nature. That the United States government and people were made for each other. Jews do not fit this view, therefore their representation in the upper rungs of society is inherently wrong.

I'm gonna look up the quote

it's in the picture

I came into the convo later